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my miss storm cat 11-14-2011 05:19 PM

Anyone else surprised by the Godolphin news?
 
http://www.drf.com/news/godolphins-u...-suroor-mettee

Arletta 11-14-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 817738)

Interesting... Best of luck to Rick.. He's a good guy. :)

NTamm1215 11-14-2011 07:07 PM

Not really. Their American operation has been a joke for the last few years and thankfully this should bring a lot of the disappearing act they put their best horses through to an end. Horses that were foolishly sent over there and lost a great deal of time could have been much better had they just been left with their original trainer and kept in the US.

Indian Charlie 11-14-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 817738)

The only surprise is it took this long for them to realize Suroor is a drooling idiot, on a good day.

Next will be Harty, in another 5-6 years.

DaTruth 11-14-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 817738)

I thought you were going to tell us that Godolphin has retained the services of RHT1985 as a consultant.

Linny 11-14-2011 09:12 PM

Suroor only showed up for the big race days. Rick was the guy in charge of the horses all along. The odd thing was that the "elite" string was in fact being trained day in and day out by a guy who never had his name in the paper as the trainer while the "2nd string" were trained by K Mc and Albertrani etc.

Best of luck to Rick who I always found to be a pleasant and gracious person.

blackthroatedwind 11-14-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 817764)
The only surprise is it took this long for them to realize Suroor is a drooling idiot, on a good day.

Next will be Harty, in another 5-6 years.

Honestly, this isn't really the case. bin Suroor wasn't the trainer.

Indian Charlie 11-14-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 817798)
Honestly, this isn't really the case. bin Suroor wasn't the trainer.

Yeah, it seemed possible his horses were trained by proxy.

Still, after hearing the man speak, I stand by my assertion that Suroor is a fool.

As are most of the Godolphin team members.

I am curious how Mettee got his job. My recollection of him training was that he was kind of like a mini Brian Mayberry.

So, who really was the trainer for Suroor in the USA? Was it Mettee?

Regardless, in the end, it matters little. Godolphin has performed so many botch jobs on their American based horses, they really should scrap it and start over.

pmayjr 11-14-2011 11:46 PM

Wasn't Invasor a Godolphin horse?

Curious how Mclaughin was able to keep him as trainer looking back on it.

Even for Sheik Mo (where $ is almost no object), maybe this is as much a cost cutting/effective move as anything else. He has fully able American-based trainers, so why send bin Suroor over to train just a few?

gamblin4ever 11-15-2011 12:16 AM

Shiek Mo should also get rid of Suroor and Simon Crisford.

KirisClown 11-15-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr (Post 817810)
Wasn't Invasor a Godolphin horse?

Curious how Mclaughin was able to keep him as trainer looking back on it.


Invasor was owned by Shadwell... the brother of Sheikh Mohammed.

Dahoss 11-15-2011 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr (Post 817810)

Even for Sheik Mo (where $ is almost no object), maybe this is as much a cost cutting/effective move as anything else. He has fully able American-based trainers, so why send bin Suroor over to train just a few?

That's what people are trying to say, they weren't just sending bin Suroor over to train a few. Mettee (or someone else, who knows really) was doing the training here and Bin Suroor might show up for a big race and put the saddle on.

blackthroatedwind 11-15-2011 08:11 AM

I assume that Rick and Henry were the main trainers during the summer when Godolphin was in NY.

VOL JACK 11-15-2011 09:19 AM

I still can't figure out why Sheik Mo spends a fortune buying up dirt horses for stallion prospects, then installs a Tapeta surface.

I think it shows a real lack of common sense on his part.
An all weather surface in the desert...:confused:

blackthroatedwind 11-15-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 817828)
I still can't figure out why Sheik Mo spends a fortune buying up dirt horses for stallion prospects, then installs a Tapeta surface.

I think it shows a real lack of common sense on his part.
An all weather surface in the desert...:confused:

Common sense is hardly part of their program.

freddymo 11-15-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 817828)
I still can't figure out why Sheik Mo spends a fortune buying up dirt horses for stallion prospects, then installs a Tapeta surface.

I think it shows a real lack of common sense on his part.
An all weather surface in the desert...:confused:

Shortage of sand?

pmayjr 11-15-2011 10:35 AM

They probably assumed every track would eventually go synthetic. Damn Santa Anita gotta "monkey wrench" that idea...

Indian Charlie 11-15-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 817829)
Common sense is hardly part of their program.

There is nothing common about common sense.

I use the term uncommon sense.

Travis Stone 11-15-2011 10:43 AM

The plan to make every horse a miler has fizzled out I guess.

Linny 11-15-2011 12:25 PM

bin Suroor lives in Newmarket. He would fly in with a fancy new suit when one ran in a big race in the US, but to my knowledge Rick was the guy handling the Godolphin runners in NY. Suroor usually wasn't on the ground in the US for his passport to cool off.


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