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GBBob 09-07-2011 09:12 PM

9/11
 
To me, the images of those falling who jumped from The Twin Towers are the most..what's the right word....disturbing, emotional? Obviously all over the media, but just a thread if anyone wants to say something.

Coach Pants 09-07-2011 09:15 PM

It's going to be the focal point of what started the collapse of the American empire. It is used to justify a police state and multiple unjust wars that have bankrupted the country and are definitely going to lead to severe austerity cuts.

I'm sorry the people died but I'm sick of this event. It turned us into scared, hysterical p.ussies.

Riot 09-07-2011 09:17 PM

Didn't need to see that again. Horror isn't strong enough word for what those poor people had to suffer as their last decision.

GBBob 09-07-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 805586)
It's going to be the focal point of what started the collapse of the American empire. It is used to justify a police state and multiple unjust wars that have bankrupted the country and are definitely going to lead to severe austerity cuts.

I'm sorry the people died but I'm sick of this event. It turned us into scared, hysterical p.ussies.

Maybe you can compare it to Pearl Harbor, but then you had a clear focused enemy to retaliate against. If we knew where to go and who to take out it could have been a "win"..not a worthwhile win, but at least an endgame.

We f*cked up 9/12 and beyond incredibly. Flying tomorrow and will take off my shoes...whoo-hoo....all good:zz:

Danzig 09-07-2011 09:37 PM

http://www.slate.com/id/2302754/

The Worst Mistake America Made After 9/11
How focusing too much on the war on terror undermined our economy and global power.
By Anne Applebaum
Updated Sunday, Sept. 4, 2011, at 7:13 AM ET

read this article this morning, thought she made some good points.

joeydb 09-09-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 805586)
I'm sorry the people died but I'm sick of this event. It turned us into scared, hysterical p.ussies.

Liberalism and political correctness did that. Berchenstock, granny-glass wearing hippies in tie dye were just the leading edge of the wussification of America.

joeydb 09-09-2011 01:48 PM

Who IS going to be at the 9/11 memorial when

Survivors are excluded.
First responders (police and firemen) are excluded.
Clergy is excluded.

Just a bunch of politicians running their mouths?

Cannon Shell 09-09-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 805872)
Who IS going to be at the 9/11 memorial when

Survivors are excluded.
First responders (police and firemen) are excluded.
Clergy is excluded.

They are all headed over to the afterparty at the nearby mosque

Riot 09-09-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 805871)
Liberalism and political correctness did that. Berchenstock, granny-glass wearing hippies in tie dye were just the leading edge of the wussification of America.

:zz: Yeah, they initiated the multi-colored terror alerts, big guy :tro:

Arletta 09-11-2011 09:44 AM

Watching the ceremony... It still gets to me and I will never, ever forget that day.

Paul Simon plays this now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-JQ1q-13Ek

Danzig 09-11-2011 10:02 AM

i think we focus on this event far too much, and have allowed it to become too much of what defines us. it was a horrible occurrence, and took a lot of innocent lives. but it should not become our defining moment, or let it rule us and be the compass that guides us. billions have been spent because of what happened-to what end? i saw an article that said we'd have had to have over 1500 terrorist attacks to justify the money we've spent. there's safe and aware, and there's paranoia, panic, hysteria and out of control fear.

jms62 09-11-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 806209)
i think we focus on this event far too much, and have allowed it to become too much of what defines us. it was a horrible occurrence, and took a lot of innocent lives. but it should not become our defining moment, or let it rule us and be the compass that guides us. 4 to 6 Trillion have been spent because of what happened-to what end? i saw an article that said we'd have had to have over 1500 terrorist attacks to justify the money we've spent. there's safe and aware, and there's paranoia, panic, hysteria and out of control fear.

ftfy and you are right. We got Bin Laden quietly in the middle of the night with a small elite team. Should have been the strategy all along.

dellinger63 09-11-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 806209)
i think we focus on this event far too much, and have allowed it to become too much of what defines us. it was a horrible occurrence, and took a lot of innocent lives. but it should not become our defining moment, or let it rule us and be the compass that guides us. billions have been spent because of what happened-to what end? i saw an article that said we'd have had to have over 1500 terrorist attacks to justify the money we've spent. there's safe and aware, and there's paranoia, panic, hysteria and out of control fear.

I couldn't disagree more. The attack should not be a defining moment but rather the response of New York in particular and the country as a whole should. The unity the country experienced following the attack needs to be celebrated. While we take off our shoes every time we board a plane our government has refused to secure the boarders. They have gone so far as to sue the State of Arizona on behalf of illegals. They have given our tax money away to countries that harbored our biggest enemy and just recently burned down the embassy of one of our greatest allies. Countries that consider a woman slightly above a dog. The billions spent fighting and killing them were far better spent than the billions simply given to them. IMO

This past week it's been difficult to hear the stories from the children who lost parents on that day. For them and the memories of those who died that day, particularly those who died trying to save someone else, we need to remain focused. As a country we need to remember the celebrations that occurred throughout the Arab world following the attack on our innocent civilians instead of trying to forget it.

Thank God our country responded and continues to respond safe and aware as opposed to crawling into a corner with out of control fear.

clyde 09-11-2011 12:01 PM

Jesus----Is it any wonder?

bigrun 09-11-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 805598)
http://www.slate.com/id/2302754/

The Worst Mistake America Made After 9/11
How focusing too much on the war on terror undermined our economy and global power.
By Anne Applebaum
Updated Sunday, Sept. 4, 2011, at 7:13 AM ET

read this article this morning, thought she made some good points.


Here's another that makes good points....

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/vi...6qQo8.facebook

Bigsmc 09-11-2011 03:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BQV93tFLs

bigrun 09-11-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 806268)


Wow!...outstanding....thanks bigs......

bigrun 09-11-2011 04:17 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/astronaut-in-s...e-of-9-11.html

clyde 09-12-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 806268)

Gosh...good thing nothing delayed the start of that game.They would have dumped that segment.


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