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Seattleallstar 09-03-2011 12:38 PM

AP Indy turf progeny
 
anyone know if he has had any notable horses that were stakes winners on grass. I dont know why they keep forcing these AP Indy's to run on grass, today at Saratoga was another beautifully bred AP Indy out of the stakes winner Friendly Michelle that runs on grass, and stinks up the joint. There was another AP Indy grass runner that was a heavy favorite on Thursday also for pletcher that stunk up the joint, but at least the dam side was bred for grass.

Alabama Stakes 09-03-2011 01:55 PM

because they win going 2 turns on the turf

outofthebox 09-03-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 804700)
anyone know if he has had any notable horses that were stakes winners on grass. I dont know why they keep forcing these AP Indy's to run on grass, today at Saratoga was another beautifully bred AP Indy out of the stakes winner Friendly Michelle that runs on grass, and stinks up the joint. There was another AP Indy grass runner that was a heavy favorite on Thursday also for pletcher that stunk up the joint, but at least the dam side was bred for grass.

I think they forced this AP Indy to run on the grass because he showed no ability in the am on the dirt and they knew he had no shot sprinting. Grass is your only option until Belmont to go long. Friendly Michelle was a top sprinter in her day, never running on the grass. You hope the Pletcher backers keep betting on these kind of horses, they're good to play against.

Seattleallstar 09-03-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 804721)
because they win going 2 turns on the turf

like?

Seattleallstar 09-03-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by outofthebox (Post 804732)
I think they forced this AP Indy to run on the grass because he showed no ability in the am on the dirt and they knew he had no shot sprinting. Grass is your only option until Belmont to go long. Friendly Michelle was a top sprinter in her day, never running on the grass. You hope the Pletcher backers keep betting on these kind of horses, they're good to play against.

Before Coolmore used to buy these multi million dollar AP Indy's and ran them on grass they suddenly wised up stopped buying them altogether and sending them to Ireland, Tabor has some and left them with Pletcher. Then they win the Belmont go figure..haha

Godolphin/Darley as you know looks to have had the best of luck with their AP Indy horses ie Tempera, Bernardini, Music Note come to mind

Alabama Stakes 09-03-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 804738)
like?

star torino, and that pletcher guy...captain webb maybe

Seattleallstar 09-03-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 804741)
star torino, and that pletcher guy...captain webb maybe

Star Torino threw in a clunker after setting slower fractions than he did in his maiden win, had no excuse. Maybe she just got "Motted"

KirisClown 09-03-2011 03:20 PM

Telling won the Sword Dancer two years in a row..

Indian Charlie 09-03-2011 03:22 PM

Adriano!

KirisClown 09-03-2011 03:34 PM

Indy Five Hundred was a Grade I winner..

Delta Princess(dam of Royal Delta) was a multiple Graded winner on turf..

Indian Charlie 09-03-2011 03:47 PM

symboli indy, a g1 winner in japan

crowd pleaser won a few graded stakes on the lawn, i believe.

just as well won a g1 in canada and i think the same year was 2nd or third in the arlington million

GPK 09-03-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 804741)
star torino, and that pletcher guy...captain webb maybe

Captain Webb is royally bred. His sire is English Channel:tro:

RolloTomasi 09-03-2011 11:31 PM

Crowd Pleaser
A.P. Warrior
El Crespo
Equitable
Golden Missile
Indy Vidual
Indygo Shiner
Just As Well
Marchfield
Parade Queen
Pickney Hill
Rock Slide
Stratford Hill

Seattleallstar 09-03-2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 804844)
Crowd Pleaser
A.P. Warrior
El Crespo
Equitable
Golden Missile
Indy Vidual
Indygo Shiner
Just As Well
Marchfield
Parade Queen
Pickney Hill
Rock Slide
Stratford Hill

not great but not bad either. Thanks, i had no idea Golden Missile won a turf race at Ellis. Guess AP Indy's on the grass arent that bad, guess just because he hasnt had a great grass horse doesnt mean he doesnt produce graded stakes race runners.


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