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Seattleallstar 08-28-2011 02:39 PM

Fusaichi Samurai
 
what did happen to this horse? All I remember was the impressive maiden score then poof. After the debut words like superhorse were already being thrown around

helicopter11 08-28-2011 03:34 PM

I am still waiting on what happened to the racing career of Storm Cat.

cakes44 08-28-2011 05:05 PM

And when the heck is Malibu Moon going to get back to the races? He sure seemed to show a lot of promise.

Riot 08-29-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 803595)
what did happen to this horse? All I remember was the impressive maiden score then poof. After the debut words like superhorse were already being thrown around

Good question. He was injured. I think he came back and ran at Hollywood once after that. TB Pedigree says "Retired in May 2007 and gelded" They paid like 2 million for him as a two-year-old, I recall, some outrageous amount.

Merlinsky 08-29-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 803794)
Good question. He was injured. I think he came back and ran at Hollywood once after that. TB Pedigree says "Retired in May 2007 and gelded" They paid like 2 million for him as a two-year-old, I recall, some outrageous amount.

$4.5 million. Per the LA Times: "After [breaking his maiden], he became the favorite in some future books for the Kentucky Derby and jockey Victor Espinoza was quoted as saying he could be "the best horse ever."" Hmm.

Seattleallstar 08-29-2011 09:17 PM

that must of been one hell of an injury for him not to do anything more with his career. I think his maiden breaking beyer was n the low 90s

RolloTomasi 08-30-2011 10:03 AM

Article from 2008:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...hab-specialist

Gaelic Storm 08-30-2011 01:05 PM

I think he was a pinhook by Robert LaPenta, as was Stay Thirsty.

Seattleallstar 08-30-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 803879)

well thats nice to read that hes doing ok and going to be fine. A 4.5 million dollar trail horse..heh heh. I am happy he didnt have to suffer the indignity of falling into cheap claiming ranks.

I remember Baffert had a horse named Work for James McIngvale, i believe he was a 950k purchase. Apparently before he had his first race he was already running and training like something special, Baffert went as far to say that this was his Derby horse and one of his most talented, Work was even given a nickname that I am forgetting right now. Before you know it something wrong happened and he never panned out, last I remember of him he was running in a cheap claimer at Mountaineer.

ShadowRoll 08-30-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 803911)
well thats nice to read that hes doing ok and going to be fine. A 4.5 million dollar trail horse..heh heh. I am happy he didnt have to suffer the indignity of falling into cheap claiming ranks.

I remember Baffert had a horse named Work for James McIngvale, i believe he was a 950k purchase. Apparently before he had his first race he was already running and training like something special, Baffert went as far to say that this was his Derby horse and one of his most talented, Work was even given a nickname that I am forgetting right now. Before you know it something wrong happened and he never panned out, last I remember of him he was running in a cheap claimer at Mountaineer.

Then, of course, there was Snaafi Dancer. Sheik Mohammed bought him for $10.6 million (the first yearling to sell for more than $10 million and, at that time, the most ever paid for a thoroughbred at auction). Never got to the track, and when they tried to breed him, proved to be infertile. To be fair, I think the sheik wanted him primarily for his bloodlines.

bare it all 08-30-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 803911)
well thats nice to read that hes doing ok and going to be fine. A 4.5 million dollar trail horse..heh heh. I am happy he didnt have to suffer the indignity of falling into cheap claiming ranks.

I remember Baffert had a horse named Work for James McIngvale, i believe he was a 950k purchase. Apparently before he had his first race he was already running and training like something special, Baffert went as far to say that this was his Derby horse and one of his most talented, Work was even given a nickname that I am forgetting right now. Before you know it something wrong happened and he never panned out, last I remember of him he was running in a cheap claimer at Mountaineer.

Haha, Work. At some point he was in the list of "favorites" for the 2004? Derby just based on Baffert being impressed with him. Menifee colt. His first start he finished wayyyyyyyyy up the track. He was a 950,000 sales 2YO and was the main "item of interest" in the original sales kickback discussions where the agents were getting %s of the sales price...

Seattleallstar 08-30-2011 04:09 PM

to think out of all those multi million dollar horses only one has produced a KY Derby winner in Fu Peg. The only other million dollar horse to win a Triple Crown race would be Rags to Riches. Jazil won the Belmont but I think he was a like a 700k plus purchase. Other than that Empire Maker and Bernardini were the only other blue bloods I can think of to win TC races

Seattleallstar 08-30-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bare it all (Post 803917)
Haha, Work. At some point he was in the list of "favorites" for the 2004? Derby just based on Baffert being impressed with him. Menifee colt. His first start he finished wayyyyyyyyy up the track. He was a 950,000 sales 2YO and was the main "item of interest" in the original sales kickback discussions where the agents were getting %s of the sales price...

it was also around the time a bit after that Mattress Mac pulled horses from Baffert and stopped spending money in the game. But remember that he did have an injury that set him back before he ran his first race, so thats the only reason I can think of as to why he didnt deliver on the talent he had shown.

ateamstupid 08-30-2011 04:29 PM

The Green Monkey.

Dahoss 08-30-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 803918)
to think out of all those multi million dollar horses only one has produced a KY Derby winner in Fu Peg. The only other million dollar horse to win a Triple Crown race would be Rags to Riches. Jazil won the Belmont but I think he was a like a 700k plus purchase. Other than that Empire Maker and Bernardini were the only other blue bloods I can think of to win TC races

I don't think either of these are true. Off the top of my head AP Indy fetched a couple of million as a yearling and he was about as blue blood as it gets. Depending on what your definintion of what a "blue blood" is, there have been plenty to win TC races.

Seattleallstar 08-30-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 803925)
I don't think either of these are true. Off the top of my head AP Indy fetched a couple of million as a yearling and he was about as blue blood as it gets. Depending on what your definintion of what a "blue blood" is, there have been plenty to win TC races.

ok in recent memory then, yes Ap Indy was blue as it gets, and I know you can make a case for almost every winner in the past 20 years or so about the "blue blood" thing. But I am talking about the more fashionable sires and mares. Sires like Seeking the Gold, Ap Indy, Mr. P,

RolloTomasi 08-30-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 803927)
ok in recent memory then, yes Ap Indy was blue as it gets, and I know you can make a case for almost every winner in the past 20 years or so about the "blue blood" thing. But I am talking about the more fashionable sires and mares. Sires like Seeking the Gold, Ap Indy, Mr. P,

While much has been made about the "unexpectedness" of certain stallions as sire of classic winners, the female families of many of these classic winners have been strong. Since '89:

Easy Goer: Alydar out of champion Relaxing
Summer Squall: Storm Bird out of champion broodmare Weekend Surprise
Pine Bluff: Danzig out of top producer Rowdy Angel
A.P. Indy: Seattle Slew out of Weekend Surprise
Go And Go: closely related to Twilight Agenda, Media Puzzle, Refuse To Bend
Timber Country: Woodman out of champion broodmare Fall Aspen
Louis Quatorze: out of top producer On To Royalty
Editor's Note: out of top producer Beware of the Cat
Touch Gold: out of top producer Passing Mood
Charismatic: out of top producer Bali Babe
Go For Gin: out of top producer Never Knock
Super Saver: out of good producer and well-bred Supercharger
Lemon Drop Kid: out of top producer Charming Lassie, from family of Lassie Dear
Birdstone: out of top producer Dear Birdie
Commendable: closely related to Fappiano, Clabber Girl, Keeper Hill, etc.

This year, the winners of the Preakness and Belmont were out of mares who had already produced at least one other Grade 1 winner. The Derby winner, Animal Kingdom, is closely related to the streaking Daveron, who has won 3 or 4 stakes races this year including last weekend's Ballston Spa.


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