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Calzone Lord 08-25-2011 02:18 PM

When this guy calls you a cheater .....
 



Your name must be Stephanie Beattie.


Of course ... those Wells stats above are from five years ago -- when he was the pet of Juice Goddess Stephanie Beattie.


Quote:

Stephanie Beattie, leading trainer at Penn National and president of the Pennsylvania Horsemen’s Benevolent and Protective Association, came out swinging against allegations made by a former boyfriend and now rival trainer, David Wells, that horses in her care were administered electric shocks before races, making them run faster when the shocks were simulated again during a race. Wells testified to that effect before a grand jury in Dauphin County, Pa., investigating activities at Penn National involving the doping of horses and possible cash-for-stalls behavior in the racing office.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...rt=40#Comments

freddymo 08-25-2011 05:02 PM

Beatty's NEVER cheat.. You should be ashamed to post this swill

Calzone Lord 08-25-2011 05:12 PM

Yeah -- they don't juice .. they just electric shock I guess.

For all the milkshaking and stuff Gill was doing ... Steph Beattie could juice circles around him in terms of performing miracles.

Calzone Lord 08-25-2011 09:19 PM

Here's a little statistical perspective....

A couple of old school Hall of Fame trainers who sharper bettors like to joke about .... at least in a sense that they burn up enough money to fill the Grand Canyon with.







A couple of sharp horseman who get tagged with more accusations than they honestly deserve - but certainly neither wears a halo around his head ... one is a complete fag and the other a really bad former jock.






Calzone Lord 08-25-2011 09:20 PM

And now for what true cheaters look like.... these were taken on the same day a few years ago when this former happy couple was rolling like the Crimson Tide and shocking the slots world.






Calzone Lord 08-25-2011 09:43 PM

If you bet $1,000 to win on every D. Wayne Lukas horse over 5 years -- you'd be down $1,542,530.00


If you bet $1,000 to win on every Johnathon Sheppard horse over 5 years -- you'd be down $1,189,920.00


So basically -- you've only dropped over a million dollars each betting on them.


If you bet $1,000 to win on every Pletcher horse over 5 years -- you'd be down $1,234,845.00


If you bet $1,000 to win on every Rudy Rod horse over 5 years -- you'd be down $70,725

Now..


If you bet $1,000 to win on every David Wells horse over those 5 years -- you'd be UP $122,395.00


If you bet $1,000 to won on every Steph Beattie horse over those 5 years -- you'd be UP $199,290.00

Calzone Lord 08-25-2011 10:12 PM

And Steph Beattie was actually elected to be Penn National's president of the HBPA during the height of her domination.

Plus -- she's a BRAZEN liar. I talked to her on the phone when I did a column a few years ago -- and she was trying to convince me that most of the horses she had overages on for the new Steroid tests were horses she recently got from other barns. I go "uhh, Steph. Why don't you try again. I have the lifetime past performances for these horses right in front of me"


All in all -- people like Steph and Scooter were probably great for the game if you want to be honest about it -- and the new wave led by guys like Juan Carlos aren't hurting no one but the trainers.

They're the horsemen's problem not ours -- if anything -- they benefit us. The horsemen are so friggen stupid though -- that they vote these type of people presidents of the HBPA.

We need takeout reductions and betting exchanges so we can churn some money and grow the game on our homeboys like Juan Carlos and Scooter -- and play against the clueless dopes like D. Ranged Lukas and Storm Cat's old trainer Mr. Hay, Oats, and Water.

Cannon Shell 08-25-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 802977)
And Steph Beattie was actually elected to be Penn National's president of the HBPA during the height of her domination.

Plus -- she's a BRAZEN liar. I talked to her on the phone when I did a column a few years ago -- and she was trying to convince me that most of the horses she had overages on for the new Steroid tests were horses she recently got from other barns. I go "uhh, Steph. Why don't you try again. I have the lifetime past performances for these horses right in front of me"


All in all -- people like Steph and Scooter were probably great for the game if you want to be honest about it -- and the new wave led by guys like Juan Carlos aren't hurting no one but the trainers.

They're the horsemen's problem not ours -- if anything -- they benefit us. The horsemen are so friggen stupid though -- that they vote these type of people presidents of the HBPA.

We need takeout reductions and betting exchanges so we can churn some money and grow the game on our homeboys like Juan Carlos and Scooter -- and play against the clueless dopes like D. Ranged Lukas and Storm Cat's old trainer Mr. Hay, Oats, and Water.

You are making the assumption that votes are actually counted in HBPA elections. Most are more fixed than Venezuela's.

DaTruth 08-25-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 802978)
You are making the assumption that votes are actually counted in HBPA elections. Most are more fixed than Venezuela's.

They are all amateurs compared to what happened in the 2008 Louisiana HPBA election. The feds have picked up several guilty pleas in that case, but they still have to reel in the big fish.

Calzone Lord 08-25-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 802978)
You are making the assumption that votes are actually counted in HBPA elections. Most are more fixed than Venezuela's.

The guy she was running against was a Polyanna.

I thought I read his remarks in the flyer I got in the mail a few years ago -- he wanted no medication, blah, blah, blah and he looked and sounded like Mr. Rodgers.

You'd have probably voted for Steph. The real question, I suppose, is he she got to run against him. I was surprised she only won by 5 votes.

Split Rock 08-26-2011 12:14 AM

So let me get this straight. Everyone on this board knows that Beattie cheats and the election that made her president was fixed? Yet nothing has happened up to this point? Is it just that the public outside the racing world could care less?

What other line of work can someone cheat so blatantly, so obviously, so known amongst their peers, yet go unpunished....? Even go without an investigation?

This game, at times, is impossible to believe. While there are some really good people involved....there are also a whole lot of scumbags, too. People who would be scheming against the elderly in nursing homes if it weren't for the easy money they can procure from "training".

Calzone Lord 08-26-2011 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split Rock (Post 802996)
People who would be scheming against the elderly in nursing homes if it weren't for the easy money they can procure from "training".

I would say scheming against the elderly is a pretty big step up in terms of scumbaggery.

These are people who probably grew up tough -- had been put down as losers -- and now that slots money and the sheer rush of winning is within reach if only they can outmanuver and get the biggest edge possible.

You have to imagine the rush you'd get from winning while making other competent people look like complete fools by comparison - that would have to feel tremendous.

Still -- at the end of the day -- they're the ones who know their own greatness comes from drugging animals -- or freaking shocking them some how. Who knows what they're doing.

David Wells is making a DAMN GOOD living right now -- he's got a horse who has won 15 races in a row -- he's living the dream ... and instead of taking the 5th ... he wants to tell a Grand Jury he was THERE ... he KNEW ... that Steph Beattie was shocking them when they killed the world together!

Think about that? Take the 5th and shut up. You have it made. No... he'd rather say "you know what -- I was there -- I knew -- she shocked them and I went along for the ride" They were probably getting an edge a million other ways .. so who knows if shocking them was a difference maker.

ellpol 08-26-2011 08:00 AM

Brandon Kulp
 
If I had a horse at Penn I would put that horse in the honest hard working successful hands of Mr. Brandon Kulp. While all this garbage is swirling around up there he just keeps plugging away doing the right things day in and day out. Just my opinion. I have met him as he trains a horse for friends and he is the real deal.


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