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ellpol 08-24-2011 08:27 AM

07/23/11 Saratoga race 8
 
Any opinions from our Saratoga experts on todays Saratoga race 2. My notes say Tulane Up Leapt in the air at the start and broke slow. Can he reverse the result on the 2 and 8 from that race on 7-23-11 8th race In todays 2nd race? Looks like good turf breeding. Opinions desired and accepted please!!

MaTH716 08-24-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ellpol (Post 802512)
Any opinions from our Saratoga experts on todays Saratoga race 2. My notes say Tulane Up Leapt in the air at the start and broke slow. Can he reverse the result on the 2 and 8 from that race on 7-23-11 8th race In todays 2nd race? Looks like good turf breeding. Opinions desired and accepted please!!

First thing, he is a she.
Leapt in the air is putting it mildly, it was a terrible start pretty much taking her out of the race completely. Despite the trouble she did make a decent run after being stuck on the rail and then going wide. I'm not sure where Ortiz is going to go with her, but there seems to be no speed in the race.
It also doesn't seem like an extremely strong group.
I'm expecting Notell to take alot of money, but she had a perfect trip last time and couldn't catch the front runner. (If I remember correctly, there was a speed bias early in the meet because of the lack of rain that might have had an affect, but I could be wrong about that).
Strikealinethruit had a ton of trouble in the stretch, when she finally got through she ran up for third. I also expect Crypto Kitten to be much better in her second start. She gets a positive rider change (Garcia has been brutal) and is adding the shades for her second career start. She was very rank and blew the turn for home in her debut. I think she might try to shake loose on the lead.

If I was playing the race, I would use the 3,8,9 in Mulitis and probably play the 9 to win. Thinking she will be the squarest price of all of them, with the chance of her going wire to wire with the blinks on for the first time.

Now that I said I wouldn't use her, she'll probably win by 6.
I'm far from a pro, but that's my take.
Good Luck.

GPK 08-24-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 802516)
First thing, he is a she.
Leapt in the air is putting it mildly, it was a terrible start pretty much taking her out of the race completely. Despite the trouble she did make a decent run after being stuck on the rail and then going wide. I'm not sure where Ortiz is going to go with her, but there seems to be no speed in the race.
It also doesn't seem like an extremely strong group.
I'm expecting Notell to take alot of money, but she had a perfect trip last time and couldn't catch the front runner. (If I remember correctly, there was a speed bias early in the meet because of the lack of rain that might have had an affect, but I could be wrong about that).
Strikealinethruit had a ton of trouble in the stretch, when she finally got through she ran up for third. I also expect Crypto Kitten to be much better in her second start. She gets a positive rider change (Garcia has been brutal) and is adding the shades for her second career start. She was very rank and blew the turn for home in her debut. I think she might try to shake loose on the lead.

If I was playing the race, I would use the 3,8,9 in Mulitis and probably play the 9 to win. Thinking she will be the squarest price of all of them, with the chance of her going wire to wire with the blinks on for the first time.

Now that I said I wouldn't use her, she'll probably win by 6.
I'm far from a pro, but that's my take.
Good Luck.

Slow day at the office?

MaTH716 08-24-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 802519)
Slow day at the office?

GFY :D

ellpol 08-24-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 802516)
First thing, he is a she.
Leapt in the air is putting it mildly, it was a terrible start pretty much taking her out of the race completely. Despite the trouble she did make a decent run after being stuck on the rail and then going wide. I'm not sure where Ortiz is going to go with her, but there seems to be no speed in the race.
It also doesn't seem like an extremely strong group.
I'm expecting Notell to take alot of money, but she had a perfect trip last time and couldn't catch the front runner. (If I remember correctly, there was a speed bias early in the meet because of the lack of rain that might have had an affect, but I could be wrong about that).
Strikealinethruit had a ton of trouble in the stretch, when she finally got through she ran up for third. I also expect Crypto Kitten to be much better in her second start. She gets a positive rider change (Garcia has been brutal) and is adding the shades for her second career start. She was very rank and blew the turn for home in her debut. I think she might try to shake loose on the lead.

If I was playing the race, I would use the 3,8,9 in Mulitis and probably play the 9 to win. Thinking she will be the squarest price of all of them, with the chance of her going wire to wire with the blinks on for the first time.

Now that I said I wouldn't use her, she'll probably win by 6.
I'm far from a pro, but that's my take.
Good Luck.

Thanks for the race summary. I appreciate it.

GPK 08-24-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ellpol (Post 802521)
Thanks for the race summary. I appreciate it.

Don't listen to him.:D

GPK 08-24-2011 11:09 AM

FWIW....Kent's only mount on the card today is the only FTS in that race.

Beware the BigsMC "done no wrong" angle.

MaTH716 08-24-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 802551)
FWIW....Kent's only mount on the card today is the only FTS in that race.

Beware the BigsMC "done no wrong" angle.

I though that angle only applies to Tampa Bay Downs and Derby Lane Greyhounds.

MaTH716 08-24-2011 12:11 PM

Wow, Tulane Up is 5/2 right now with 24 MTP off an 8-1 ML.

MaTH716 08-24-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 802551)
FWIW....Kent's only mount on the card today is the only FTS in that race.

Beware the BigsMC "done no wrong" angle.

I just noticed that Kent isn't riding her, it's now Jaime Rodriguez.

ellpol 08-24-2011 12:19 PM

Early $$$$
 
:confused:The 3 is taking a lot more early $$$ than I thought she would

ellpol 08-24-2011 12:38 PM

Saratoga second today
 
Hope all the horses and jockeys are ok. What a shocker.

MaTH716 08-24-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ellpol (Post 802587)
Hope all the horses and jockeys are ok. What a shocker.

What happened?

Seattleallstar 08-24-2011 12:48 PM

nasty spill down the stretch, it was an odd race all around. Hope the horses and jockeys are ok.

ellpol 08-24-2011 12:50 PM

The 7 won at 24-1 and the 4 and 6 fell on the turn for home all got up and walked off and appear ok

Bigsmc 08-24-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ellpol (Post 802521)
Thanks for the race summary. I appreciate it.

Agreed. We need more of this around here. I always enjoy reading other handicapper's opinions. You never know when you may learn something.

Thanks Matt.

Alabama Stakes 08-24-2011 04:35 PM

race 9
 
nice job choking the life out of Mollymollymolly down the backstretch there Castellano. Don't let me need 7/5 off a $54 hoss to start it. what a piece of **** ride that was.


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