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Seattleallstar 08-06-2011 05:34 PM

Last race at Saratoga 8/6
 
yes this deserves a thread. I thought for sure the 6 was going down and I was telling my dad I feel sorry for the poor guy who had this for 86k. I think with the 13 not making a dramatic move making it seem it was clearly interfered, affected their decision. Had the head on showed the 13 check or had the jockey made some exaggerated move they take the 6 down.

freddymo 08-06-2011 05:39 PM

I dont get the call? I am not remotely qualified to be a steward so I do not really know the specifics of law but to me it was an easy take down

somerfrost 08-06-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 797851)
I dont get the call? I am not remotely qualified to be a steward so I do not really know the specifics of law but to me it was an easy take down

Looked like an obvious foul in the head on...worst was very close to the wire however.

Seattleallstar 08-06-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 797851)
I dont get the call? I am not remotely qualified to be a steward so I do not really know the specifics of law but to me it was an easy take down

me too, I am just thinking about the justification to hold up the result. Imagine a triple carryover for tomorrow where the pool could of easily hit 3-4 million dollars. Maybe the stewards were alive to the 6

knickslions2 08-06-2011 05:57 PM

Good no call. Our friends point and pmac hit a nice pick 4 on the 6:)

freddymo 08-06-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 797858)
me too, I am just thinking about the justification to hold up the result. Imagine a triple carryover for tomorrow where the pool could of easily hit 3-4 million dollars. Maybe the stewards were alive to the 6

Very hard for me to play steward since I really am not qualified. The problem with us hacks is we really don't the rulebook all we know is what we see which may nor maynot be significant.

JerseyJ 08-06-2011 06:13 PM

Easily justified no call there IMO. 13 came in on the 6 as well, 12 came in a bit. 13 wasn't beating the 6 if they ran around the track again. Both horses came in on each other.

Fearless Leader 08-06-2011 07:09 PM

Worst Call By The Three Blind Mice In The History Of Horse Racing

Princess Doreen 08-06-2011 07:17 PM

Had remarked my program. Didn't run across one person there that didn't have their mouth agape at the decision.

Calzone Lord 08-06-2011 08:56 PM

It was tight all through the stretch with slight contact and mutual contact here and there- and the foul occured right on top of the wire - I would say it was a good non-call.

fpsoxfan 08-06-2011 09:26 PM

The Delmar Finale had a similar situation with the same decision.

citycat 08-06-2011 10:48 PM

And again I will give you one guess who the jockey was............yep Rajiv Maraugh.............he is gonna get someone killed one day. He already has taken down a nice horse in Animal Kingdom

ADJMK 08-06-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 797915)
It was tight all through the stretch with slight contact and mutual contact here and there- and the foul occured right on top of the wire - I would say it was a good non-call.

I had nothing to gain by the decision but it was a terrible non-call.

The chart call:
BOUND BY HUMOR came away in good order, pressed the pacesetter, gained the lead passing the seven-sixteenths pole, dropped to the inside near the five-sixteenths pole, dueled with GROUND FORCE while under right hand urging in upper stretch, was brushed by that rival inside the furlong marker, switched to a left-handed whip, continued to duel while joined on the outside by WEE FREUDIAN, came out under left hand urging late, bumped with GROUND FORCE, forced that rival into the runner-up and prevailed.

Amazing how the three horse could be neck&neck until 2 of them are crossbodied by the 6 and it is a non-call? Obviously the charts didn't see it that way.

Seattleallstar 08-06-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan (Post 797928)
The Delmar Finale had a similar situation with the same decision.

yeah i watched the race, but didnt see the head on. Didnt see what really happened, what did the TVG people say? Ron Ellis was on, I wonder what he thought of it

Calzone Lord 08-07-2011 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ADJMK (Post 797965)
forced that rival into the runner-up and prevailed.

By the time that happened - there was only about 20 yards left in the race - and it was clear the 2nd place finisher wasn't winning.

The horse who finished 3rd -- and was forced out by the winner late -- actually iniated contact with the winner before he got forced out.

Thus, the winner shouldn't be placed 3rd for an incident that was started by the 3rd place finisher.

It all boils down to this -- was 2nd place fouled by the actions of the winner? Yes.

Did that foul cost 2nd place a better placing? In my opinion - No. There was only about 20 yards left in the race - and he clearly wasn't winning.

To me, it's a good non-call even though a foul did occur just before the wire.

Dahoss 08-07-2011 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by citycat (Post 797955)
And again I will give you one guess who the jockey was............yep Rajiv Maraugh.............he is gonna get someone killed one day. He already has taken down a nice horse in Animal Kingdom

What a ridiculous comment, excuse me....comments.


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