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Bogey 06-08-2011 12:35 AM

WED - Arlington (R5-R10 PK6 & PK5 Carryover)
 
Expecting a sunny day with temp reaching the mid 90's. PK6 carryover at $18.9k and PK5 at 9.8k. POST SCRATCHES


Arlington Park


R5- Md 40k (Turf 5.5F)

#6 Hero's and Crooks (7-2) WON $6.40
#3 Parody (12-1)
#7 Artful Bee (6-1) 3RD
#1 Soulader (9-2)

R6 - OC 80k / N3X

#2 Coragil Cat (5-1)
#7 Saint Leon (7-2) 2ND
#1 Tazz (6-1) WON $8.00

R7 - ILL Breds MSW 28k (Turf 8.5F)

#7 No Retreat (8-1) 3RD
#2 Lake in the Sky (9-5) WON $3.60
#4 Lookinatmindy (8-1)
#5 Baby Polly (7-2)

R8 - Md 25k

#2 SCR
#10 De Kaf (8-1)
#5 Miss Pollipop (6-1)
#9 Jeansthatfit (10-1) 4TH

R9 - Clm 15k N2L (Turf 8F)

#7 Kuhlu (4-1) WON $10.20
#4 Princes Even (3-1) 3RD
#6 Innocent Kitten (8-1)
#2 Just Be There (5-1) 2ND

R10 - Clm 15k N3L (Turf 8F)

#2 Beloveda (10-1) 2ND
#1 Sealaunch (5-2)
#6 Berry Knoll (8-1)
#7 Pobrecita (6-1) 4TH

PK6 - 3 6 7 / 1 2 7 / 2 7 / 5 9 10 / 7 / 1 2 6 = $162

PK5 - 1 2 7 / 2 4 7 / 5 10 / 7 / 1 2 6 = $27 ($.50 play)

PK4 - 1 2 4 5 7 / 5 10 / 4 6 7 / 1 2 6 = $45 ($.50 play
)


Good Racing Luck

Dahoss 06-08-2011 01:54 AM

I'm on the fence with Hero's and Crooks, Bogey. I don't like the drop and change in surface, especially because he's a full to a recent Peter Pan winner. But, he still has a real good shot in there.

What do you normally do in situations like that? I guess with the main track being synth it sort of forces his hand about what kind of surface to run on, unless he ships, but the drop in for a tag bothers me. Sure, maybe it's where he belongs, but since he owns and bred I figured he might give him another shot before the drop.

Bogey 06-08-2011 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 782547)
I'm on the fence with Hero's and Crooks, Bogey. I don't like the drop and change in surface, especially because he's a full to a recent Peter Pan winner. But, he still has a real good shot in there.

What do you normally do in situations like that? I guess with the main track being synth it sort of forces his hand about what kind of surface to run on, unless he ships, but the drop in for a tag bothers me. Sure, maybe it's where he belongs, but since he owns and bred I figured he might give him another shot before the drop.

Hoss, I definitely understand your concern, but he looks to sit a nice trip right behind Parody and then take over late. Roussel did this with regularity last year if I remember correctly, so don't be discouraged about the drop. I'm expecting him to go off in the 9-5 range. Good luck this afternoon.

Scav 06-08-2011 08:39 AM

Strong head wind down the stretch this morning and its HOT! suppose to 95 today with surface temp of 120

GBBob 06-08-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 782553)
Hoss, I definitely understand your concern, but he looks to sit a nice trip right behind Parody and then take over late. Roussel did this with regularity last year if I remember correctly, so don't be discouraged about the drop. I'm expecting him to go off in the 9-5 range. Good luck this afternoon.

The 6th is a really nice little race.

Bogey 06-08-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 782559)
The 6th is a really nice little race.

Yeah, Coragil Cat is the play for me, but if Saint Leon can run anything close to his last, it's good night. I was surprised to see Exchanging Kisses entered here after his nice win last month on the lawn. Solid race for a Wednesday afternoon.

Bob, good luck and you can light up your cigar with a magnifying glass today after you take down the PK5 and PK6.

Scav 06-08-2011 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 782559)
The 6th is a really nice little race.

I wouldn't be shocked to see them cancel. There was no one on the big track today after 8am cause it was so hot on it.

Scav 06-08-2011 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 782547)
I'm on the fence with Hero's and Crooks, Bogey. I don't like the drop and change in surface, especially because he's a full to a recent Peter Pan winner. But, he still has a real good shot in there.

What do you normally do in situations like that? I guess with the main track being synth it sort of forces his hand about what kind of surface to run on, unless he ships, but the drop in for a tag bothers me. Sure, maybe it's where he belongs, but since he owns and bred I figured he might give him another shot before the drop.

I don't know if Oratory's Peter Pan win was anything special.

I am 2-6-7 in that race I think. Jock switch on the 9 is pretty massive also.

MaTH716 06-08-2011 10:00 AM

This might be a stupid question, but I'll throw it out there anyway.

Does the synthetic tracks hold heat (meaning are they hotter to be on) more than the conventional dirt tracks? I remember the old astro turf football fields and they held the heat making it unbearable on extremely hot days.

Scav 06-08-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 782569)
This might be a stupid question, but I'll throw it out there anyway.

Does the synthetic tracks hold heat (meaning are they hotter to be on) more than the conventional dirt tracks? I remember the old astro turf football fields and they held the heat making it unbearable on extremely hot days.

Beyond holding heat.

I walked on it this morning and you can feel the temperature change instantly.

Stings the horses feet it is so hot.

MaTH716 06-08-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 782570)
Beyond holding heat.

I walked on it this morning and you can feel the temperature change instantly.

Stings the horses feet it is so hot.

Thanks for the answer Tom, I kind of figured that, but I didn't realize it was so extreme.

Dahoss 06-08-2011 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 782568)
I don't know if Oratory's Peter Pan win was anything special.

It wasn't "special" because of who he beat, but he ran a huge race that day. You're missing my point though. The horse has made one not bad at all start and now he's in for 35 in a grass sprint.

I view that as a negative. He can still win, but I never like seeing that move and was interested in knowing how Bogey and other handicappers look at this.

GPK 06-08-2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 782568)
I don't know if Oratory's Peter Pan win was anything special.

I am 2-6-7 in that race I think. Jock switch on the 9 is pretty massive also.

Speaking of the jock switch on the 9, why does Graham jump off Hero's and Crooks and jump on Mawaaqef?

Scav 06-08-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 782573)
It wasn't "special" because of who he beat, but he ran a huge race that day. You're missing my point though. The horse has made one not bad at all start and now he's in for 35 in a grass sprint.

I view that as a negative. He can still win, but I never like seeing that move and was interested in knowing how Bogey and other handicappers look at this.

Roussell likes to scratch alot and he also likes to win, I agree about seeing it as a negative, but as you can see, the race isn't much. Plus, there isn't many 35k claims at Arlington, pretty rare.

Scav 06-08-2011 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 782574)
Speaking of the jock switch on the 9, why does Graham jump off Hero's and Crooks and jump on Mawaaqef?

Look who he jumped off Albin for on Friday, impossible to guess on some of the moves these guys make.

GPK 06-08-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 782576)
Look who he jumped off Albin for on Friday, impossible to guess on some of the moves these guys make.

Yeah, but he rides for Robertson quite a bit.

MaTH716 06-08-2011 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 782573)
It wasn't "special" because of who he beat, but he ran a huge race that day. You're missing my point though. The horse has made one not bad at all start and now he's in for 35 in a grass sprint.

I view that as a negative. He can still win, but I never like seeing that move and was interested in knowing how Bogey and other handicappers look at this.

I agree Hoss. I thought he wan well first out in a race where the place horse won his next out (at the same level). Then the horse disappears of the grid for over two months and now shows four spaced out works for his second start on the drop. For me there are some definite red flags.

The Bart 06-08-2011 01:51 PM

Last 2 races look inviting.

10 DD 2/26
5 DD 26/26

20 WP on the 2 in both races.

Bogey 06-08-2011 02:03 PM

With the big scratch of my BEST BET #2 in Race 8 I'm now leaning on #7 Kuhlu in Race 9 as my singleton.

viscount26 06-08-2011 02:12 PM

Gus
Kuhlu is the 7. You put the 4 as you're single


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