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Riot 05-30-2011 10:34 AM

New York Magazine in-depth article on Roger Ailes
 
Here is the link to this talked-about article. Roger Ailes, Fox News, and his desire to control the Presidential election. Very long, but great reading.

http://nymag.com/news/media/roger-ai...x-news-2011-5/

The Elephant in the Green Room
The circus Roger Ailes created at Fox News made his network $900 million last year. But it may have lost him something more important: the next election.

Excerpts:

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On Monday afternoon, March 28, Fox News chairman Roger Ailes summoned Glenn Beck to a meeting in his office on the second floor of News Corp.’s midtown headquarters to discuss his future at the network. Ailes had spent the better part of the weekend at his Putnam County estate thinking about how to stage-manage Beck’s departure from Fox, which at that point was all but inevitable. But, as with everything concerning Glenn Beck, the situation was a mess, simultaneously a negotiation and a therapy session. Beck had already indicated he was willing to walk away—“I don’t want to do cable news anymore,” he had told Ailes. But moving him out the door without collateral damage was proving difficult.

Ailes had hired Beck in October 2008 to reenergize Fox’s audience after Obama’s election, and he’d succeeded beyond anyone’s wildest hopes, tapping deep wells of resentment and igniting them into a vast, national conflagration. The problem was that it had almost engulfed Fox itself. Beck was huge and uncontrollable, and some of Fox’s other big names seemed diminished by comparison—and were speaking up about it. Beck seemed to many to be Fox News’s id made visible, saying things—Obama is a racist, Nazi tactics are progressive tactics—dredged from the right-wing subconscious. These were things that weren’t supposed to be said, even at Fox, and they were consuming the brand. Ailes had built his career by artfully tending the emotional undercurrents of both politics and entertainment, using them to power ratings and political careers; now they were out of his control.
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Ailes is the most successful executive in television by a wide margin, and he has been so for more than a decade. He is also, in a sense, the head of the Republican Party, having employed five prospective presidential candidates and done perhaps more than anyone to alter the balance of power in the national media in favor of the Republicans. “Because of his political work”—Ailes was a media strategist for Nixon, Reagan, and George H. W. Bush—“he understood there was an audience,” Ed Rollins, the veteran GOP consultant, told me. “He knew there were a couple million conservatives who were a potential audience, and he built Fox to reach them.”

bigrun 05-30-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 780190)
Here is the link to this talked-about article. Roger Ailes, Fox News, and his desire to control the Presidential election. Very long, but great reading.

http://nymag.com/news/media/roger-ai...x-news-2011-5/

The Elephant in the Green Room
The circus Roger Ailes created at Fox News made his network $900 million last year. But it may have lost him something more important: the next election.

Excerpts:


I miss Beck, hilarious whacko....Didn't watch his fox show but caught his act on the Daily Show...Stewart had some classic bits with his imitations of Beck...He will miss Beck the most...You ever see the movie below...a little insight to the inner sanctum of Fox strategy...how they all jump on the word of the day and promote it on all their programs...

Outfoxed: Murdoch's War on Journalism(2004) NR

Filmmaker Robert Greenwald delivers a no-holds-barred documentary on Rupert Murdoch's Fox News cable channel, which has been criticized in certain quarters as running a "race to the bottom" in television news. Featuring interviews with a range of media experts, the film offers an in-depth look at the dangers of burgeoning corporations that take control of the public's right to know and explores Murdoch's ever-expanding media empire.

Genre:
Social & Cultural Documentaries, Political Documentaries

lord007 05-30-2011 08:43 PM

Who cares. . .. .. ......

GBBob 05-30-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 780347)
Who cares. . .. .. ......

For a bunch of whiners who complain incessantly about media bias, this is a pretty telling statement.

Because?

You guys believe Fox is unbiased reporting:rolleyes:

Ed Rollins, the veteran GOP consultant, told me. “He knew there were a couple million conservatives who were a potential audience, and he built Fox to reach them.”

hi_im_god 05-30-2011 09:03 PM

it's a pretty scattershot article. i feel like there's a better story somewhere in there if given to a decent journalist.

but i did find the interactions between ailes and the murdoch family illuminating. i had no idea that sort of conflict existed at news corp.

i doubt lord007 has any idea what i'm talking about since he didn't read the article.

lord007 05-30-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 780349)
For a bunch of whiners who complain incessantly about media bias, this is a pretty telling statement.

Because?

You guys believe Fox is unbiased reporting:rolleyes:

Ed Rollins, the veteran GOP consultant, told me. “He knew there were a couple million conservatives who were a potential audience, and he built Fox to reach them.”

For the records i do not watch fox news and could give 2 craps about Beck....And for the Media there is a strong bias on both sides obviously...when Barry visited Boston a couple weeks ago a certain paper was left out of the media pool for obvious reason's...do explain

lord007 05-30-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 780354)
it's a pretty scattershot article. i feel like there's a better story somewhere in there if given to a decent journalist.

but i did find the interactions between ailes and the murdoch family illuminating. i had no idea that sort of conflict existed at news corp.

i doubt lord007 has any idea what i'm talking about since he didn't read the article.

I read the left wing article...your not GOD

GBBob 05-30-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 780362)
For the records i do not watch fox news and could give 2 craps about Beck....And for the Media there is a strong bias on both sides obviously...when Barry visited Boston a couple weeks ago a certain paper was left out of the media pool for obvious reason's...do explain

But politics aside, why wouldn't you find an in-depth article on the history of Fox News interesting? I think the behind the scenes stuff is fascinating

lord007 05-30-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 780365)
But politics aside, why wouldn't you find an in-depth article on the history of Fox News interesting? I think the behind the scenes stuff is fascinating

It's the source my friend

GBBob 05-30-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 780368)
It's the source my friend

I had a feeling that's where you were going. Look...she is no more annoying that many/most of the righties here...it just depends on your perspective I think. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For what it's worth..and I know you said you give two sh.its about Beck, but I think it's pretty ironic when the Right complains about ANY over the top poster who dares to challenge them. There is so much Kool Aid drinking done by Conservatives that a vocal opposition just automatically becomes an auto-toss..like..How DARE you disagree with me..

Just sayin'..

hi_im_god 05-30-2011 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 780368)
It's the source my friend


did you know ruprert murdoch owned the magazine for about 10 years in the 80's?

i know it has "new york" in the title but that really isn't synonymous with "liberal" in all cases. think william f. buckley for example.

and if you really want anyone to believe you actually read an article, try posting something more than two words as a review followed by insightful criticism specifying that the source is the real problem.

lord007 05-30-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 780374)
did you know ruprert murdoch owned the magazine for about 10 years in the 80's?

i know it has "new york" in the title but that really isn't synonymous with "liberal" in all cases. think william f. buckley for example.

and if you really want anyone to believe you actually read an article, try posting something more than two words as a review followed by insightful criticism specifying that the source is the real problem.

All about $$$....all you need to know...wait..your GOD

hi_im_god 05-30-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 780378)
All about $$$....all you need to know...wait..your GOD

i never intended it to work this way but the username has turned out to be an infallible newbie filter. they always bring it up.

not that being a newbie makes your opinion any less valued. it's actually the lack of content behind the opinion that accomplishes that.

Riot 05-30-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 780374)
did you know ruprert murdoch owned the magazine for about 10 years in the 80's?

i know it has "new york" in the title but that really isn't synonymous with "liberal" in all cases. think william f. buckley for example.

and if you really want anyone to believe you actually read an article, try posting something more than two words as a review followed by insightful criticism specifying that the source is the real problem.

I wish William F. Buckley was still around. WFB Junior has become marginalized by his appallment at the current conservative movement.

Edit: I miss Firing Line. And Buckley's fight with Gore Vidal was classic.
Went looking, found this article by Christopher:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...ase-for-obama/

hi_im_god 05-30-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 780386)
I wish William F. Buckley was still around. WFB Junior has become marginalized by his appallment at the current conservative movement.

shhhh...

lord007 is trying to read. it's seven whole pages.

Riot 05-30-2011 10:39 PM

If you didn't notice, here's another great click-through on the first page of the NYM article on Ailes:

http://nymag.com/news/media/david-br...atters-2011-5/

Another multi-pager in-depth:


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If I Take Down Fox, Is All Forgiven?

David Brock has spent the last decade apologizing to liberals for his role in creating the vast right-wing conspiracy. Now he’s trying something more ambitious and hoping it gains him the respect he craves from the White House.


There may be no greater testament to *David Brock’s central role in the vast left-wing conspiracy than the lengths to which Rupert Murdoch will go to avoid him.

In November, a researcher at Media Matters for America, the liberal press-watchdog group that Brock founded seven years ago, noticed that the website *Charitybuzz was auctioning a “friendly lunch” with Murdoch to benefit the Global Poverty Project. That one of Brock’s worker bees would be keeping tabs on the News Corp. chairman’s calendar should not be terribly surprising. At Media Matters’ headquarters in Washington, D.C., scores of headphone-wearing staffers spend their days (and nights) staring into their television screens and computer monitors, waiting for the latest bits of “conservative misinformation” to emerge from the Fox News Channel and other corners of the right-wing media landscape, all of which are saved on “the big TiVo”—270 terabytes’ worth of hard drive that store over 300,000 hours of TV shows—so that the offending clips can be uploaded to Media Matters’ website. Are you in need of a compendium of the “50 Worst Things Glenn Beck Said on Fox News”? Fear not, Media Matters’ site has one.

lord007 05-30-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 780381)
i never intended it to work this way but the username has turned out to be an infallible newbie filter. they always bring it up.

not that being a newbie makes your opinion any less valued. it's actually the lack of content behind the opinion that accomplishes that.

Useless... .... ....

hi_im_god 05-30-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 780398)
Useless... .... ....

obvious...

Danzig 05-31-2011 06:05 AM

wait....somone using the name lord is upset about someone else being god? now, that's interesting.

Antitrust32 05-31-2011 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 780407)
wait....somone using the name lord is upset about someone else being god? now, that's interesting.

:tro::tro:


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