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OldDog 05-24-2011 01:18 PM

Brass Hat retired
 
http://www.drf.com/news/brass-hat-re...fter-40-starts

"LOUISVILLE, Ky. – Brass Hat, the venerable gelding who earned nearly $2.2 million while becoming a sentimental favorite of racing fans in Kentucky and beyond, has been retired at age 10, it was announced Tuesday morning by owner-breeder Fred Bradley and his son, trainer Buff Bradley."

http://horseracing.bloginky.com/2011...s-hat-retired/


randallscott35 05-24-2011 01:19 PM

Amended

slotdirt 05-24-2011 01:21 PM

randall's making up for lost time.

randallscott35 05-24-2011 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 778592)
randall's making up for lost time.

somebody has to. freaking graveyard without me here

VOL JACK 05-24-2011 01:47 PM

Best horse to ever look through a bridle!!1

If he can accomplish what he did for Buff Bradley...He has to be the GOAT.

Riot 05-24-2011 02:21 PM

Good for him, enjoyed watching him run. Enjoy retirement spending your days rolling in the mud and eating - you earned it.

ninetoone 05-24-2011 02:30 PM

Loved him.

Kasept 05-24-2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 778591)
The Lance Armstrong of racing.

Please elaborate on this comment before I rip into it. If it's a Dubai drug use reference, it's the most inane post of the decade.

randallscott35 05-24-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 778647)
Please elaborate on this comment before I rip into it. If it's a Dubai drug use reference, it's the most inane post of the decade.

Yes and no. Warhorse in terms of years and I was already a fan. But failing a drug test in the biggest race of his life, ala Lance, is surely a defining moment in his career. Did he have to return the purse? Yes. I know you like Bradley and the horse and that's fine. I've yet to see another World Cup victor ever have to return the purse.

Kasept 05-24-2011 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 778653)
Yes and no. Warhorse in terms of years and I was already a fan. But failing a drug test in the biggest race of his life, ala Lance, is surely a defining moment in his career. Did he have to return the purse? Yes. I know you like Bradley and the horse and that's fine. I've yet to see another World Cup victor ever have to return the purse.

You don't know the details if you think what went on was anything other than the screwing of a small outfit that was never going to get back to the World Cup. Bradley followed THEIR direction for withdrawl times on the anti-inflammatory (nearly 30 days out) and was taken advantage of with a trace positive. It was robbery. And to impune the horse's reputation because of it is as gross an injustice as what was done to Brass Hat, Fred & Buff Bradley and Willie Martinez.

randallscott35 05-24-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 778676)
You don't know the details if you think what went on was anything other than the screwing of a small outfit that was never going to get back to the World Cup. Bradley followed THEIR direction for withdrawl times on the anti-inflammatory (nearly 30 days out) and was taken advantage of with a trace positive. It was robbery. And to impune the horse's reputation because of it is as gross an injustice as what was done to Brass Hat, Fred & Buff Bradley and Willie Martinez.

Fair enough. With the layoff lines the horse constantly had he obviously had physical issues, as Chuck says, they all do...There is a marked difference between EPO and such and anti-inflams so I amend my initial post.

Cannon Shell 05-24-2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 778653)
Yes and no. Warhorse in terms of years and I was already a fan. But failing a drug test in the biggest race of his life, ala Lance, is surely a defining moment in his career. Did he have to return the purse? Yes. I know you like Bradley and the horse and that's fine. I've yet to see another World Cup victor ever have to return the purse.

I know that you don't let thing like facts and details get in the way but I guess you forgot that they treated the horse entirely within the regulations sent to them by the people in Dubai, regulations that were changed because of this incident. So Bradley follows what he believes to be the rules, was completely open about the procedure done to the horse and when it was done (which was and remains legal), and yet you still want to act as though he is some kind of drug cheat?

The biggest problem with all these medication issues is that people defend those which dont have positives as though they are clean despite a preponderance of evidence suggesting that they are operating well beyond their actual capabilities and throw guys like Bradley who are almost certainly not cheating but because of a screwed up system they have a bad test, under the bus.

randallscott35 05-24-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 778681)
I know that you don't let thing like facts and details get in the way but I guess you forgot that they treated the horse entirely within the regulations sent to them by the people in Dubai, regulations that were changed because of this incident. So Bradley follows what he believes to be the rules, was completely open about the procedure done to the horse and when it was done (which was and remains legal), and yet you still want to act as though he is some kind of drug cheat?

I was wrong.

somerfrost 05-24-2011 04:34 PM

Loved this horse, happy to see him retire sound and able to enjoy the rest of his life!

ninetoone 05-24-2011 04:55 PM

Can someone post his PP's? I was in Vegas when he broke his maiden at long odds...recommended him to some stranger but didn't bet him. When I saw the guy after the race, he thought I was a genius. Followed him every race after that.

Thoroughbred Fan 05-24-2011 09:22 PM

Did Lance ever test positive?

randallscott35 05-24-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan (Post 778744)
Did Lance ever test positive?

Yes as per 60 minutes. Was swept away

AeWingnut 05-24-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 778745)
Yes as per 60 minutes. Was swept away

the only reason they were convinced that he was cheating -
they were and couldn't beat him.

so why don't you go do a bunch of drugs, run around in circles and eat it.

OldDog 05-31-2011 08:12 AM

Brass Hat, Frank Artist honored by Churchill upon their retirements

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/rac...r-retirements/

Photos...
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3.126693553344

my miss storm cat 05-31-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 780427)
Brass Hat, Frank Artist honored by Churchill upon their retirements

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/rac...r-retirements/

Photos...
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3.126693553344

Thanks for posting these and happy retirement to the old man.

I've been a fan forever.

Thanks for the memories, good boy. :)


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