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Kasept 04-13-2011 11:04 AM

KY denies Dutrow license; Injunction allowing runners
 
Kentucky committee denies Dutrow a racing license
By Matt Hegarty

FLORENCE, Ky. – A Licensing Review Committee of the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission on Wednesday denied Rick Dutrow a racing license, putting in jeopardy the trainer’s ability to start horses at any time this year in the state.

The review committee, meeting in a conference room of the offices of Travis Burr, chairman of the Licensing Review Committee, denied the license after questioning Dutrow for just more than hour about his license application, which was filed Tuesday afternoon.

In voting unanimously to deny the license, the committee approved a motion citing seven sections of Kentucky racing law, including “misrepresentations” on the license application and “conduct against the best interest of racing.”

Following the vote, Dutrow said he did not know if he would appeal. Asked if he was treated fairly during the hearing, Dutrow said “I don’t know, but that doesn’t matter.”

Scav 04-13-2011 11:10 AM

We'll see if the snake will figure out a way around it.

I'm assuming that if he isn't licensed, then he can not get stalls, right?

IEAH gets it where the sun don't shine also in having to scratch their horses!

WIN WIN

Alan07 04-13-2011 11:13 AM

I assume this means Court Vision is out Friday, right?

Kasept 04-13-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 768547)
I assume this means Court Vision is out Friday, right?

Read the phucking article.

asudevil 04-13-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 768550)
Read the phucking article.

Ouch!!!
:eek:

The Bid 04-13-2011 11:25 AM

I feel bad for dutrow. It's like bonds w roids. Somebody is going to be made an example of and Dutrow is cocky enough that it's going to be him. I hope racing doesn't ultimately take away his livelyhood, the only thing the guys ever done.

Riot 04-13-2011 11:26 AM

Good :tro: We'll see how he tries to get around it.

MaTH716 04-13-2011 11:28 AM

How long does it take to transfer a horse to another trainer and get licensed by the state?

Clip-Clop 04-13-2011 11:30 AM

I was hoping to see Court Vision run.

Duvalier 04-13-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 768550)
Read the phucking article.

To be fair he didn't have time...he had to start a thread about it on every other racing site on the web...along with all the other negative complaining ones.

Sightseek 04-13-2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 768559)
I feel bad for dutrow. It's like bonds w roids. Somebody is going to be made an example of and Dutrow is cocky enough that it's going to be him. I hope racing doesn't ultimately take away his livelyhood, the only thing the guys ever done.

Cheaters and stealers always seem to survive....

The Bid 04-13-2011 12:11 PM

They have wanted Dutrow for a long time

When you have guys strangling their wives riding for 750k is it fair to take away a guys livelyhood for overages, or positives, that don't warrant the crime? Whether people think he cheats should be inconsequential. Show why, on paper, definitively, why he's being denied a licnese. Even cheaters, liars, thievs, murderers, should be granted a due process.

-BT- 04-13-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

In his defense, Dutrow said most of the drug-related offenses on his record were due to overages of therapeutic medications. He said any misinformation on his license applications were not intentional but were due to the fact others completed the paperwork for him, and he just signed it.

Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1JQPQyZ5X

my heart goes out to him :rolleyes:

-bt-

HaloWishingwell 04-13-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 768550)
Read the phucking article.

He wants you to click the link for him

Antitrust32 04-13-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 768585)
They have wanted Dutrow for a long time

When you have guys strangling their wives riding for 750k is it fair to take away a guys livelyhood for overages, or positives, that don't warrant the crime? Whether people think he cheats should be inconsequential. Show why, on paper, definitively, why he's being denied a licnese. Even cheaters, liars, thievs, murderers, should be granted a due process.

I disagree with this 10000%. This is for a racing license, not a court case. The committee has the right to deny anyone.

The Bid 04-13-2011 01:48 PM

Why after granting a license to a convicted felon over and over they finally decide.... Ah this year I don't think so. I'm sure he filled out the paperwork the same he always has. What makes his ninety first positive different than the 90th? What makes him breaking into a slot machine relevant when it hasn't been prior?

Anti trust.. Regardless what line of work somebody is in I think it's wrong to deny them a livelyhood w out sufficient reason. There should be very clear rules throughout racing and there aren't.

Scav 04-13-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 768597)
Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1JQPQyZ5X

my heart goes out to him :rolleyes:

-bt-

The best part is that felony is because he broke into a slot machine in Nevada.

On all licenses, it asks you if you have been convicted of a felony, and usually within the next question or two is asks if it involved gaming and book making

Cannon Shell 04-13-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 768655)

Anti trust.. Regardless what line of work somebody is in I think it's wrong to deny them a livelyhood w out sufficient reason. There should be very clear rules throughout racing and there aren't.

I think that there is certainly sufficient reason. A livelihood isn't being denied, a professional license is. If you own a bar and the state won't renew your liquor license after finding some violations isn't that denying someone a livelihood? Well that happens all the time. If you're a lawyer and you get disbarred (essentially the same thing as losing your license) isn't that taking away a livelihood? If you drive trucks for living and lose you drivers license isn't that denying someone a livelihood?

If he stopped getting positive tests and stopped getting suspended and did simple things like filling out his own application or taking it serious enough to make sure it was correct he would not be in the predicament that he is in. You can blame whoever you want, you can say they have it out for him, etc but the fact is he has no one to blame but himself.

The Bid 04-13-2011 02:45 PM

There may be sufficient reason but what's the difference in this year or last? He broke into a slot machine like a racoon in a trashcan years ago. There is no consistency and I think that's a major issue. Now he's going to
be a scapegoat for many guys who push the envelope and I think that's unfair

Training horses has to be his livelyhood, whatelse could he possibly do? If you're going to take somebodies quality of living and livelyhood away then it shouldn't be a subjective process or because a couple guys dislike his personality.

randallscott35 04-13-2011 02:47 PM

maybe he pulls a manny and rides off into the sunset.


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