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randallscott35 03-31-2011 11:15 AM

Ramon Suspended
 
For his Dubai ride on Gio Ponti. His ride was atrocious. 2 days is a gift. Clement should show him the door for that kind of ride in a 10mil race.

http://www.drf.com/news/dominguez-su...gio-ponti-ride

eajinabi 03-31-2011 02:51 PM

Did not notice the incident, but the blame should go to Clement for assigning him the mount in the first place.

Kasept 03-31-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 764819)
For his Dubai ride on Gio Ponti. His ride was atrocious. 2 days is a gift. Clement should show him the door for that kind of ride in a 10mil race.

http://www.drf.com/news/dominguez-su...gio-ponti-ride

Maybe Dominguez should show Clement the door for failing to get Gio Ponti the prep race he kept promising for 2.5 months..

pointman 03-31-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 764897)
Did not notice the incident, but the blame should go to Clement for assigning him the mount in the first place.

Yeah, because Dominguez is such a terrible rider, any owner would be crazy to give him top mounts. :rolleyes:

NTamm1215 03-31-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 764912)
Yeah, because Dominguez is such a terrible rider, any owner would be crazy to give him top mounts. :rolleyes:

No, you don't understand. Someone who admittedly follows SoCal racing more often is perfectly qualified to tell us that Ramon sucks because he only has 1 BC win and is 0 for the Triple Crown. Those of us who watch NY racing every day are foolish to think he's anything more than a B list rider.

johnny pinwheel 03-31-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 764897)
Did not notice the incident, but the blame should go to Clement for assigning him the mount in the first place.

give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

jms62 03-31-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel (Post 764943)
give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

I thought the same thing.:tro:

VOL JACK 03-31-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel (Post 764943)
give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

Gio Ponti had a wide trip and was uncovered the whole way.

If he had drew better and Ramon could have covered him and let him out at the last possible second...it would have been a different finish.

He looked like a winner at the 8th pole and then did his best hang job of his career.
There is just no telling how much :$: and G1 wins he would have if he wasn't such a quirky horse once he hits the lead.
If the paid out at the 8t pole...he would easily be the richest runner in history.
It's sad that he pulls himself up every race because he is probably the best turf horse we have seen in the US in a long time.

blackthroatedwind 03-31-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 764967)
Gio Ponti had a wide trip and was uncovered the whole way.

If he had drew better and Ramon could have covered him and let him out at the last possible second...it would have been a different finish.

He looked like a winner at the 8th pole and then did his best hang job of his career.
There is just no telling how much :$: and G1 wins he would have if he wasn't such a quirky horse once he hits the lead.
If the paid out at the 8t pole...he would easily be the richest runner in history.
It's sad that he pulls himself up every race because he is probably the best turf horse we have seen in the US in a long time.

Can you imagine if there had been pace in either ( or both ) of the World Cups Gio Ponti raced in? He would have won both races if there was a fair pace.

Sorry to rain on the parade of the board intelligentsia.

randallscott35 03-31-2011 07:27 PM

That's odd, he wasn't suspended because of a lack of pace in the race.

GPK 03-31-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 764967)
Gio Ponti had a wide trip and was uncovered the whole way.

If he had drew better and Ramon could have covered him and let him out at the last possible second...it would have been a different finish.

He looked like a winner at the 8th pole and then did his best hang job of his career.
There is just no telling how much :$: and G1 wins he would have if he wasn't such a quirky horse once he hits the lead.
If the paid out at the 8t pole...he would easily be the richest runner in history.
It's sad that he pulls himself up every race because he is probably the best turf horse we have seen in the US in a long time.

That's some serious funny sh*t there.

randallscott35 03-31-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 764974)
That's some serious funny sh*t there.

Each your heart out English Channel.

VOL JACK 03-31-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 764974)
That's some serious funny sh*t there.

He would toy with English Channel at any distance.....on a good to firm turf course. Especially at 8 or 9 furlongs...(9f being EC's best trip).

GPK 03-31-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 764981)
He would toy with English Channel at any distance.....on a good to firm turf course. Especially at 8 or 9 furlongs...(9f being EC's best trip).

Sure he would:rolleyes:

NTamm1215 03-31-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 764972)
Can you imagine if there had been pace in either ( or both ) of the World Cups Gio Ponti raced in? He would have won both races if there was a fair pace.

Sorry to rain on the parade of the board intelligensi.

He would have been in the exacta each time at worst. Victoire Pisa ran a huge race on Saturday only because of that backstretch move that he used to go from last to first.

Bottom line is there was no shame in the races he has run over there, especially with no prep this year. Ramon being suspended because of the ride takes nothing away from the race he ran this year.

eajinabi 03-31-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel (Post 764943)
give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

Loyal? it must be tough to drop out on some 25k claimers in NYRA to run in a 10million dollar race. His 5th place finish pay out is equal to winning a 500k race or in Ramon's case winning 15 claiming races.

MisterB 04-01-2011 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 764989)

Bottom line is there was no shame in the races he has run over there, especially with no prep this year.

No Shame? No prep? That's shame enough. Clement handed Ramon a gun with no bullets. Shame,shame,shame.

Come on ;)

OldDog 04-01-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 764989)
He would have been in the exacta each time at worst.

That was my thinking.

pointman 04-01-2011 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 764992)
Loyal? it must be tough to drop out on some 25k claimers in NYRA to run in a 10million dollar race. His 5th place finish pay out is equal to winning a 500k race or in Ramon's case winning 15 claiming races.

Ramon must be riding in a ton of claiming races to be the second leading money earning jockey thus far this year. It must be some trick to do that with all those claimers and not even be in the top five in number of starts. You do realize that Dominguez could ride at Gulfstream Park (or even your beloved California tracks) and get plenty of mounts if he wanted to but stays in NY to be with his family?

Do you even think before you type? Oh, I know, it is an east coast/west coast thing. Everything you put on this board is pure comedy, please keep us entertained.

Coach Pants 04-01-2011 10:37 AM

Yeah but it's not like we're talking about Angel Cordero Jr.

He's basically a giant grizzly bear hibernating in a smelly cave. It's tough to defend that.


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