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Kasept 02-10-2011 07:49 AM

Keeneland replacing P6 with .50 P5
 
Keeneland got KHRC approval yesterday to run a .50 P5 and will use it to replace its' P6...

HEGARTY (DRF): The commission also voted unanimously to approve a request by Keeneland Racecourse to offer a pick five during its upcoming spring meet. The pick five will replace the track's pick six, and have a 50-cent minimum. Rogers Beasley, Keeneland's director of racing, said that the pick six offered by Keeneland had attracted only about $10,000 in wagers each day. He said that pick five bets that had been offered recently in New Jersey and Florida attracted $150,000 to $200,000 each day. "Anything above $10,000 would probably be all right to us," Beasley said.

joeydb 02-10-2011 07:50 AM

OK -- that's now on my list of plays. Thanks for the heads up.

randallscott35 02-10-2011 07:52 AM

OOooooooooooo.


Thud

joeydb 02-10-2011 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 750869)
"Anything above $10,000 would probably be all right to us"[/i]

FYI -- yesterday according to equibase chart, Gulfstream's $.10 Pick-6 brought in $15,836

I didn't read the article yet, but any rationale given on why they didn't at least try a lower base bet on the Pick-6? Or was Keeneland's Pick-6 already one of the very few that had less than a $2 base bet?

Habersham000 02-10-2011 03:49 PM

I just hope they keep the Pick-4 a 50 cent base since they have the 50 cent Pick-5 now

Kasept 02-10-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 750873)
FYI -- yesterday according to equibase chart, Gulfstream's $.10 Pick-6 brought in $15,836

I didn't read the article yet, but any rationale given on why they didn't at least try a lower base bet on the Pick-6? Or was Keeneland's Pick-6 already one of the very few that had less than a $2 base bet?

With the .50 P5 having established itself at MTH and GP, why try to re-engineer a P6 that has virtually no following? KEE's Rogers Beasley said they were getting $10k into their P6, and a P5 there could bring $100,000-$150,000 based on what we saw at MTH and are seeing at GP.

Kasept 02-10-2011 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habersham000 (Post 751123)
I just hope they keep the Pick-4 a 50 cent base since they have the 50 cent Pick-5 now

Doubt they move backwards on that Tim..

Alan07 02-10-2011 04:01 PM

Something that NYRA should do.

Kasept 02-10-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 751132)
Something that NYRA should do.

Something NYRA should do? You mean drop the P6 in favor of a .50 P5? Are you high?

GPK 02-10-2011 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 751148)
Something NYRA should do? You mean drop the P6 in favor of a .50 P5? Are you high?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdHZ6...eature=related

NTamm1215 02-10-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 751132)
Something that NYRA should do.

The 50 cent Pick 5 has been successful at tracks that either didn't offer a Pick 6 or didn't have handle on it that reached five digits on most days. NYRA doesn't qualify under either of those.

ateamstupid 02-10-2011 06:12 PM

Good move.

dalakhani 02-10-2011 07:25 PM

Is the Takeout going to be the same as it was at Monmouth for this wager?

OTM Al 02-11-2011 08:06 AM

Just make sure they don't follow the GP model and raise the take on other bets while they have you distracted....

Kasept 02-11-2011 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTM Al (Post 751303)
Just make sure they don't follow the GP model and raise the take on other bets while they have you distracted....

:tro:

Good to see that Kool Aid they were serving elsewhere didn't find its' way to you Al.. ;)

freddymo 02-11-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 751197)
The 50 cent Pick 5 has been successful at tracks that either didn't offer a Pick 6 or didn't have handle on it that reached five digits on most days. NYRA doesn't qualify under either of those.

Has NYRA ever considered seeding the Pik 6 or reserving 10% of the jackpot? What kind of works in poker rooms are bad beat Jackpots that when hit are still substantial for the next potential winner. If the Pik 6 pool always had a balance it could be better attended. Maybe if 5% of ever tix was withheld as a tax and the payout was clipped 5pts? I realize some of the issues but maybe it could work with a bit of engineering.

jms62 02-11-2011 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 751148)
Something NYRA should do? You mean drop the P6 in favor of a .50 P5? Are you high?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkT5gJ8PU-0

OTM Al 02-11-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 751306)
:tro:

Good to see that Kool Aid they were serving elsewhere didn't find its' way to you Al.. ;)

I've been arguing with people since this thing was announced that still don't get it, one former newspaper writer included. The so called drop in blended take (whatever the hell that is....) was not true either.

Funny thing was the last couple years since rennovation, I seemed to be one of the few that still said good things about the place. Now people are trying to find reasons why its so great including the strung out looking handicapping chick that always flips her hair before she speaks.....

Best bait and switch I ever saw. They even got the HANA guys in their corner for "promised" future changes. Of course the fact that management at GP has changed 3 times in the last 3 years may derail that a bit.....

Now sacred Keeneland is giving the bettor "what he wants". No bad words will be said about this one I'm sure. Keeneland does no wrong (well there was that sweat shirt sample I saw once from their gift shop that had the track's name spelled "keenland". No wonder they couldn't move that one....). Hell Keeneland is so great that Secretariat won the Belmont Stakes there....

I'm only ranting here because my office is about 50 degrees right now and it is giving me warmth...but then again everything above is true

parsixfarms 02-11-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 751340)
Has NYRA ever considered seeding the Pik 6 or reserving 10% of the jackpot?

They had a $100K guarantee on Thursdays at Saratoga this year, and it seemed to work well.

joeydb 02-11-2011 01:13 PM



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