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Sightseek 02-04-2011 12:52 PM

Best Victory over Males
 
We might have done this before, and even I might have started it, but I was in the mood for one of those threads. :D Rank the victories below, extra credit given to those who state why.

- Rags to Riches Belmont Stakes

- Rachel Alexandra Preakness

- Rachel Alexandra Haskell

- Rachel Alexandra Woodward

- Zenyatta BC Classic

Clip-Clop 02-04-2011 12:55 PM

Those are in order. Rags beat Curlin. Rachel's others go in order from distance to general impressiveness. Zenyatta beat an interesting group but nothing spectacular.

freddymo 02-04-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 748868)
We might have done this before, and even I might have started it, but I was in the mood for one of those threads. :D Rank the victories below, extra credit given to those who state why.

- Rags to Riches Belmont Stakes

- Rachel Alexandra Preakness

- Rachel Alexandra Haskell

- Rachel Alexandra Woodward

- Zenyatta BC Classic

I am just happy you are in the mood and will leave it at that

FGFan 02-04-2011 01:05 PM

Hmmm...I think maybe Rags beating Curlin.

But Sighty are we only dealing with US. horseys here, what about Goldikova always beating the boys????

FGFan 02-04-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 748875)
I am just happy you are in the mood and will leave it at that


:eek:
:o
Freddyperv maybe instead of freddymo?

Sightseek 02-04-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FGFan (Post 748876)
Hmmm...I think maybe Rags beating Curlin.

But Sighty are we only dealing with US. horseys here, what about Goldikova always beating the boys????

I was going for U.S. dirt races.

Sightseek 02-04-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 748875)
I am just happy you are in the mood and will leave it at that

Freddy, I'm always in the mood













































to talk horseys.

FGFan 02-04-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 748879)
I was going for U.S. dirt races.

Gotcha!!!

freddymo 02-04-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 748880)
Freddy, I'm always in the mood













































to talk horseys.

Whatever works..who am I to judge?

GenuineRisk 02-04-2011 02:49 PM

Oh, fun one, Sightseek!

Rags' Belmont was so great to watch when she and Curlin both kicked away from the rest of the field and went head-to-head the whole way down the stretch, but it was very slow and Hard Spun and Curlin ran well in both the Derby and Preakness and I think were a bit tired, while Rags had the benefit of a rest.

That was a fun Belmont- almost as good for me as Big Brown's, which was great not for the lame race, but for spending a nice day with FGFan. :)

I think I'd give it to Rachel's Preakness. Honest pace, large field, outside post and she'd also run two weeks (and one day) previous.

alysheba4 02-04-2011 03:36 PM

rachel / preakness , zenyatta b.c and rags belmont were equally impressive.

dalakhani 02-04-2011 09:11 PM

1. Zen's bc
2. Rags Belmont
3. Rachels Woodward
4. Rachels Haskell
5. Rachels Preakness

RockHardTen1985 02-04-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 748868)
We might have done this before, and even I might have started it, but I was in the mood for one of those threads. :D Rank the victories below, extra credit given to those who state why.

- Rags to Riches Belmont Stakes

- Rachel Alexandra Preakness

- Rachel Alexandra Haskell

- Rachel Alexandra Woodward

- Zenyatta BC Classic


Belmont, Classic, Haskell, Preakness, Woodward.

Rags beat the best group in the Belmont. Hard Spun and Curlin, both very very good horses. Zenyatta beat a bunch of G1 winners and did it with style. It was not the best group, but a lot better then anything Rachel beat in her 3 trys. The Haskell was Rachels best race IMO. Summer Bird and Munnings were both OK at the time. That Preakness was bad, and Mine That Bird who is and was a slug put in a giant run at her. Other then Rachel, easily the worse Woodward I can remember. Macho Again was trash and so was everyone else in that race.

Dahoss 02-04-2011 09:39 PM

Hard Spun was a monster going 12 furlongs.

RockHardTen1985 02-04-2011 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 749067)
Hard Spun was a monster going 12 furlongs.

Unlucky he came around in that year. He was a total monster.
I think his last 2 races that year really proved he was special. The trip in the Belmont was a joke, no telling what could have been. One could argue he was best in the Derby.

Indian Charlie 02-04-2011 09:57 PM

That crop freaking sucked Joey.

Relative to most recent years however, I can see why you might be confused and say something like Hard Spun was unlucky to come along in that crop.

Dahoss 02-04-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 749069)
Unlucky he came around in that year. He was a total monster.
I think his last 2 races that year really proved he was special. The trip in the Belmont was a joke, no telling what could have been. One could argue he was best in the Derby.

He was okay, but hardly a monster. Horse racing actually existed before 2001. Instead of spending countless hours posting gibberish you should look into some of it.

RockHardTen1985 02-04-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 749070)
That crop freaking sucked Joey.

Relative to most recent years however, I can see why you might be confused and say something like Hard Spun was unlucky to come along in that crop.


Im not confused and I am comparing to the recent crops. Super Saver and MTB winning Derby, and those big 3 came along in the same year. Thats all Im saying.

Indian Charlie 02-05-2011 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 749072)
Im not confused and I am comparing to the recent crops. Super Saver and MTB winning Derby, and those big 3 came along in the same year. Thats all Im saying.

The crop that MTB was in was actually pretty decent, but was decimated by injuries.

I think it's far from a certainty that Hard Spun would have fared that well in that year had that crop stayed sound.

RockHardTen1985 02-05-2011 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 749109)
The crop that MTB was in was actually pretty decent, but was decimated by injuries.

I think it's far from a certainty that Hard Spun would have fared that well in that year had that crop stayed sound.

I stongly disagree with this. Hard Spun showed in the BC he loved the slop, I think he wins that Derby fairly easily. If I remember correctly Fresian Fires what the chalk and I had POTN as my lone A. Big Drama was a sprinter period, Summer Bird did not get really good until the Travers IMO. Dunkirk ran 1 good race. And like you said the 2 big horses got hurt.


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