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Split Rock 01-02-2011 08:03 PM

What's the worst thing....?
 
...about the state of horse racing today?

1. Illegal drugs/corrupt trainers
2. High takeout
3. Small fields/low payoffs
4. Polytrack
5. Poor video/no high defintion
6. Poor onsite customer service
7. Something else?

For the record, the drug issue is tops on the list for me

Coach Pants 01-02-2011 08:05 PM

TVG

stonegossard 01-02-2011 08:17 PM

Ken Rudolph

AeWingnut 01-02-2011 08:29 PM

inconsistent rulings by the stewards.
high take out
over taxation (anything over 300-1 for a $2 bet is reported)
jockeys that stop riding when they can't win - what about my trifecta
small uncompetitive fields

PeteMugg 01-02-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 739203)
inconsistent rulings by the stewards.
high take out
over taxation (anything over 300-1 for a $2 bet is reported)
jockeys that stop riding when they can't win - what about my trifecta
small uncompetitive fields

All the above, but especially the jocks that stop riding. I lose way too many trifectas and supers this way.

eajinabi 01-02-2011 11:21 PM

Its not only that their are small fields in So. Cal. Its filled with really really crappy horses

SilverRP 01-02-2011 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 739203)
inconsistent rulings by the stewards.
high take out
over taxation (anything over 300-1 for a $2 bet is reported)
jockeys that stop riding when they can't win - what about my trifecta
small uncompetitive fields

All the above, but this tops it.

Travis Stone 01-02-2011 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverRP (Post 739244)
All the above, but this tops it.

A lot of those complaints would go away (somewhat) if there were 10+ horse fields to bet on every race for sure.

phystech 01-03-2011 12:20 PM

Incompetent track owners that are more interested in running a slots parlor and answering to shareholders than they are in producing a good product for the bettors, trainers, and owners.

freddymo 01-03-2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phystech (Post 739302)
Incompetent track owners that are more interested in running a slots parlor and answering to shareholders than they are in producing a good product for the bettors, trainers, and owners.

These slot tracks are bad for racing on so many levels. You have to love the purses and they are the only place a slow horse can make a buck ,but isnt that the issue?

Nobody bets these tracks and nobody every will.

richard 01-03-2011 01:28 PM

More needs to be done ...a positive example
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...lvania-program

santana 01-03-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 739304)
These slot tracks are bad for racing on so many levels. You have to love the purses and they are the only place a slow horse can make a buck ,but isnt that the issue?

Nobody bets these tracks and nobody every will.



I love betting Delta Downs...and i know alot of people that feel the same way.

PatCummings 01-03-2011 11:13 PM

Worst thing?

Too much racing, market saturation...

Which leads to lesser quality (in the breed, the betting, the attendance, the field size, and any feeling of racing being "special," and I'd even argue the more crooks and cheats lesser quality attracts.)

richard burch 01-05-2011 10:22 AM

1. Illegal drugs/corrupt trainers

Princess Doreen 01-05-2011 10:25 AM

Rush to the breeding shed - no interest/incentive in keeping horses racing. Too many cripples standing at stud.

richard burch 01-05-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 739304)
These slot tracks are bad for racing on so many levels. You have to love the purses and they are the only place a slow horse can make a buck ,but isnt that the issue?

Nobody bets these tracks and nobody every will.

if you didn't have slots at the tracks, you would have no tracks.

so then you wouldn't have to worry about racing at all.

Dahoss 01-05-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 739831)
if you didn't have slots at the tracks, you would have no tracks.

This isn't true

freddymo 01-05-2011 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 739831)
if you didn't have slots at the tracks, you would have no tracks.

so then you wouldn't have to worry about racing at all.

I am the first guy to love the purses that slots seem to have provided in the short run. They are not the answer and they have added more product, and the product sucks. More bad product that you cant bet are bad for the long term. Case in point:

With 10 seconds before the gates opened at Parx two days ago a horse for 4/5 in a 7 horse field.. The horse went off at 5/2 and the winner who was 5/2paid 5.60. This can't happen in NY. Only at a place were people dont bet can pools be this whacky. Great purses though I will give you that!


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