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Alan07 12-15-2010 06:16 PM

12/18 (HOL): Futurity (G1)
 
9th (4:37) Hollywood Futurity (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Ronin Dax Smith M E 121 Blk-Off L
2 J P's Gusto Talamo J 121 L
3 Rustler Hustler 121
4 Slammer Time Flores D R 121 L
5 High Level Jeff Rosario J 121 L
6 Clubhouse Ride Valenzuela P A 121 L
7 Gourmet Dinner Madrid S O 121
8 Riveting Reason Quinonez A 121 L
9 Industry Leader Bejarano R 121 L
10 Comma to the Top Nakatani C S 121 L

RockHardTen1985 12-15-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 734108)
9th (4:37) Hollywood Futurity (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Ronin Dax Smith M E 121 Blk-Off L
2 J P's Gusto Talamo J 121 L
3 Rustler Hustler 121
4 Slammer Time Flores D R 121 L
5 High Level Jeff Rosario J 121 L
6 Clubhouse Ride Valenzuela P A 121 L
7 Gourmet Dinner Madrid S O 121
8 Riveting Reason Quinonez A 121 L
9 Industry Leader Bejarano R 121 L
10 Comma to the Top Nakatani C S 121 L



This is really bad. It feels naked without the GOAT having the big horse.

robfla 12-16-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 734109)
This is really bad. It feels naked without the GOAT having the big horse.

what's wrong with the race? he posts the entries at 7:16 and by 7:17 you determine it's "really bad".

Clip-Clop 12-16-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla (Post 734383)
what's wrong with the race? he posts the entries at 7:16 and by 7:17 you determine it's "really bad".

I was thinking exactly the same. I think there are no "good" races anymore and all horses are crap.

tjfla 12-19-2010 09:16 AM

Futurity tell us
 
We now have 4 all but guaranteed to make the Derby if not injured

Comma to the Top is in the KY Derby

JP's Gusto needs to stay on polycrap however he is in the KY Derby

Clubhouse Ride could be an interesting horse who is almost guaranteed a Derby Spot now

Gourmet Dinner while not great at least didnt get destroyed

tjfla 12-19-2010 09:20 AM

I know it is early but does any place keep track or have updated stakes money for KY Derby horses?

AeWingnut 12-19-2010 09:46 AM

http://www.derbytrail.com/

eajinabi 12-19-2010 11:33 AM

I am sorry but that race was horrible to watch. Other than the walk-away winner in Comma To The Top, the others seem to struggle going that distance. I dont expect to see any superstars coming out of that race

tjfla 12-20-2010 05:32 PM

I dont know Clubhouse Ride looks like next year's First Dude,can not win but hits the board every time

1 more race with a board hit and he is in the Derby

RolloTomasi 12-20-2010 06:12 PM

Pretty amazing that two horses that were running in the early season maidens in May at HP completed the exacta in December's Futurity.

Not sure that's necessarily a good thing with respect to the race's impact on next year's Kentucky Derby.

That said, JP's Gusto had a weird running line, and seemed to finish with good energy. I would have guessed he'd be burnt out by now, so hopefully at the very least he will be a good "barometer" horse for the West Coast Derby preps.

RockHardTen1985 12-20-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 735478)
Pretty amazing that two horses that were running in the early season maidens in May at HP completed the exacta in December's Futurity.

Not sure that's necessarily a good thing with respect to the race's impact on next year's Kentucky Derby.

That said, JP's Gusto had a weird running line, and seemed to finish with good energy. I would have guessed he'd be burnt out by now, so hopefully at the very least he will be a good "barometer" horse for the West Coast Derby preps.



I think the race was horrible. None of these horses will have any impact on the Triple Crown.

RolloTomasi 12-20-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 735481)
I think the race was horrible. None of these horses will have any impact on the Triple Crown.

I thought that perhaps Industry Leader had some upside before the race, but he wasn't involved at all. Perhaps something was amiss. I suppose he deserves a start on dirt before completely writing him off.

On another note, how bad was Art Gropper's commentary in the "Closer Look" section of the DRF's PPs?

When discussing Riveting Reason, he mentioned that the horse, coming off his maiden victory, was facing a tough task in the Futurity. Used the hackneyed "it's always tough first time vs. winners" maxim.

Of course, if he bothered to actually read the PPs, or watch this year's Breeder's Cup, or just follow the big races for the year, he would have known that Riveting Reason had competed in 3 straight Grade 1s (Del Mar Futurity, Norfolk, and BC Juvenile) prior to his win in maiden special weight company.


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