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Cunningham Racing 09-01-2006 07:27 PM

Scat Daddy or Circular Quay?
 
In your opinion, which Pletcher baby is better and will win the Hopeful? (if you think Pletcher will win the race, which appears most likely)

I think Scat Daddy is a better horse and will assert himself Monday as the early deserving favorite for the Breeders' Cup Juvenile....You could tell he was special while watching him train at Churchill Downs the two weeks before the Derby with all of Pletcher's first string.

His dam side suggests he'll at least get the 1 1/16-mile distance of the Breeders' Cup Juvenile (although I'm not sure the Derby distance will suit him at three being that he is a Johanessburg...may be more of a miler type, we'll see...)

He is the goods though....

zippyneedsawin 09-01-2006 10:52 PM

I've been in CQ's corner since watching his maiden score. Scat Daddy is nice, but I've been more impressed with CQ's races.. I'll take him.

dalakhani 09-02-2006 01:06 AM

I dont know Joel. After watching replays, i think CQ is the better horse. Just seems to have a nicer action. Why do you like SD better?

Scurlogue Champ 09-02-2006 04:21 AM

I like Circular Quay also. He looked pretty good at Churchill that day he won the minor stake.

Is Lukas putting his FuPeg in there? I never saw another run from it since the day that CQ won and ran against him.

oracle80 09-02-2006 08:43 AM

It may be neither if the Lukas horse runs his race. I've seen em all train, and Lukas is training as good or better than anyone. Circular Quay is training real well in his last two works, only had one subpar breeze.

Danzig 09-02-2006 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodwalker
I like Circular Quay also. He looked pretty good at Churchill that day he won the minor stake.

Is Lukas putting his FuPeg in there? I never saw another run from it since the day that CQ won and ran against him.

yeah, pegasus wind is supposed to run. this is the highest i've seen lukas on a horse in a while....this will be his third start i think.

pgardn 09-02-2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
In your opinion, which Pletcher baby is better and will win the Hopeful? (if you think Pletcher will win the race, which appears most likely)

I think Scat Daddy is a better horse and will assert himself Monday as the early deserving favorite for the Breeders' Cup Juvenile....You could tell he was special while watching him train at Churchill Downs the two weeks before the Derby with all of Pletcher's first string.

His dam side suggests he'll at least get the 1 1/16-mile distance of the Breeders' Cup Juvenile (although I'm not sure the Derby distance will suit him at three being that he is a Johanessburg...may be more of a miler type, we'll see...)

He is the goods though....

God help me with the genetics crapola. Just watch the horses RUN and report. Thats the goods.

Cunningham Racing 09-02-2006 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
I dont know Joel. After watching replays, i think CQ is the better horse. Just seems to have a nicer action. Why do you like SD better?

Actually, I thought Circular Quay's action was very subpar...he is a nice horse and I think he'll definately go longer, but he is pretty hard on himself with his high action and is not the most efficient mover....watch him Monday...he kicks those front legs up pretty high.....

Scat Daddy has a beautiful long stride and is just a better looking horse period...I think his upside is much greater...I think the horse won on pure ability last out when most two-year-olds would have packed it in with the inside, green journey while taking dirt that is not advantageous to juveniles because of their lack of seasoning....

He has that very classy appearance about him...his eye...the way he carries himself...watching how he trains and does his job....I just think he is a good horse...

Cunningham Racing 09-02-2006 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodwalker
I like Circular Quay also. He looked pretty good at Churchill that day he won the minor stake.

Is Lukas putting his FuPeg in there? I never saw another run from it since the day that CQ won and ran against him.

Pegasus Wind or something like that??...Yeah, he came back and impressively broke his maiden at the Spa last month and I do belive that he is running in Monday's Hopeful....I think he's a nice horse but I'll take Scat Daddy over him...I'm not a huge fan of Pegasus Wind's trainer...just not...but I've seen him train at CD and he is a very talented horse....he could be right there at the wire on Monday...

Cunningham Racing 09-02-2006 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
God help me with the genetics crapola. Just watch the horses RUN and report. Thats the goods.

Anybody can do that...I would rather use my knowledge to forecast...;)

Danzig 09-02-2006 10:52 AM

where ya been cunningham?! let me guess, working....

between the two, i think i'd take scat daddy as well....but pegasus wind will be tough. what a dorky name by the way!

King Glorious 09-04-2006 12:36 PM

I like Pegasus Wind to beat them both.

Revolution 09-04-2006 01:04 PM

i like circular quay once they stretch out in the bcj. today i would go with lukas.

Scurlogue Champ 09-04-2006 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Actually, I thought Circular Quay's action was very subpar...he is a nice horse and I think he'll definately go longer, but he is pretty hard on himself with his high action and is not the most efficient mover....watch him Monday...he kicks those front legs up pretty high.....

Scat Daddy has a beautiful long stride and is just a better looking horse period...I think his upside is much greater...I think the horse won on pure ability last out when most two-year-olds would have packed it in with the inside, green journey while taking dirt that is not advantageous to juveniles because of their lack of seasoning....

He has that very classy appearance about him...his eye...the way he carries himself...watching how he trains and does his job....I just think he is a good horse...

Did you think the same about Barbaro's action?

packerbacker7964 09-04-2006 01:20 PM

The Lukas horse will go to the lead and make them catch him. How good is speed holding up at the Spa is the real ?

2Hot4TV 09-04-2006 01:44 PM

CQ looks just fine with my money on him again. Thanks

2Hot4TV 09-04-2006 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
In your opinion, which Pletcher baby is better and will win the Hopeful? (if you think Pletcher will win the race, which appears most likely)

I think Scat Daddy is a better horse and will assert himself Monday as the early deserving favorite for the Breeders' Cup Juvenile....You could tell he was special while watching him train at Churchill Downs the two weeks before the Derby with all of Pletcher's first string.

His dam side suggests he'll at least get the 1 1/16-mile distance of the Breeders' Cup Juvenile (although I'm not sure the Derby distance will suit him at three being that he is a Johanessburg...may be more of a miler type, we'll see...)

He is the goods though....

Handicapping rule#2 Study long study wrong

Cunningham Racing 09-04-2006 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodwalker
Did you think the same about Barbaro's action?

Yeah, isn't he broke down? :eek:


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