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jrajf 11-09-2010 11:07 AM

brilliant account from across the pond
 
a must read for anyone who witnessed the drama on saturday


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/r...t-2128089.html

richard 11-09-2010 11:21 AM

"A gift from God" should be the HOY . A miraculous filly , 30 lengths back , unbeaten in her career except for a long nose in the greatest of all races this year .

Haynesfield, 22 3/4 L behind the leaders at the finish of the BC, beat Blame by 4L in the JCGC . Blame is 13-9-2-2 lifetime . 5-4-1 this year. The defending BC champion Zenyatta loses her only race ever by a nose to Blame coming from 30L back . 20-19-1 lifetime, 6-5-1 this year . Clearly Zenyatta is HOY .

Sightseek 11-09-2010 11:40 AM

Wonderful read, thanks for posting.

(although I think the part about her submitting to Blame for breeding sounds like Sumitas wrote it)

lemoncrush 11-09-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 721015)
Wonderful read, thanks for posting.

(although I think the part about her submitting to Blame for breeding sounds like Sumitas wrote it)

I was just going to comment on that.
I almost threw up a little in my mouth after reading that paragraph.

tector 11-09-2010 11:57 AM

So, a horse that has won no open Grade 1s all year, and is beaten on the track by another horse that is now 3 out of 4 in open Grade 1s this year, should be HOY ahead of him. Remember, each horse has lost only one race this year.

If the name was not Zenyatta, no horse racing fan in their right mind would make this argument. This is cultish behavior. Act like frigging adults already.

richard 11-09-2010 12:00 PM

She lost by a nose and Blame lost by 4 L to the horse that finished 22 3/4 L behind both in the BC .

Kris S is the broodmare sire of Zenyatta and the grandsire of Blame .

tector 11-09-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 721022)
She lost by a nose and Blame lost by 4 L to the horse that finished 22 3/4 L behind both in the BC .

Kris S is the broodmare sire of Zenyatta and the grandsire of Blame .

And she would have lost that same race by 15 lengths on that lone-f pace scenario. You can't possibly be as big an idiot as you pretend to be, not if you still know how to breathe.

jrajf 11-09-2010 01:34 PM

geez..
 
the original post was for everyone to enjoy the prose put forth by Luck
It was not intended to become ANOTHER battlefield for pro con Zenyatta.

By the way the inbreeding pattern looks ok

tector 11-09-2010 01:40 PM

Whose inbreeding, richard's?

Lovely prose is a fine thing, so long as it is not a mask for illogic. Just move on already.

jrajf 11-09-2010 02:18 PM

thanks spock

tector 11-09-2010 02:28 PM

OK, we'll decide things like racing is a petting zoo contest.

Which animal is our most favorite, boys and girls?

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 02:36 PM

Ohhhh, ohhh, I know this one!!

Indian Charlie!

tector 11-09-2010 02:41 PM

Yes, he is very pretty when his groom ties a ribbon on his tail.

Oh wait--you mean the horse.

lemoncrush 11-09-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721024)
And she would have lost that same race by 15 lengths on that lone-f pace scenario. You can't possibly be as big an idiot as you pretend to be, not if you still know how to breathe.

I agree...this logic is even dumber than most of the Pro-zenyatta threads (and I'm not a basher at all, just a realist).
Using this same logic, how wide of a margin do you think Blame would crush Rinterval or or any of the other allowance-level fillies that Zenyatta squeaked by this year? It's all irrelevant.

blackthroatedwind 11-09-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721024)
And she would have lost that same race by 15 lengths on that lone-f pace scenario. You can't possibly be as big an idiot as you pretend to be, not if you still know how to breathe.



Bob Dylan would be proud.

Nice one.

tector 11-09-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 721100)
Bob Dylan would be proud.

Nice one.

Inadvertent, sorry. I have loved that song since I was about 14 (when it came out), so it is deeply ingrained, I guess.

Forgive me, Zimmerman!

blackthroatedwind 11-09-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721105)
Inadvertent, sorry. I have loved that song since I was about 14 (when it came out), so it is deeply ingrained, I guess.

Forgive me, Zimmerman!

Greatest song and well used in my opinion.

Dahoss 11-09-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard (Post 721009)
"A gift from God" should be the HOY . A miraculous filly , 30 lengths back , unbeaten in her career except for a long nose in the greatest of all races this year .

Haynesfield, 22 3/4 L behind the leaders at the finish of the BC, beat Blame by 4L in the JCGC . Blame is 13-9-2-2 lifetime . 5-4-1 this year. The defending BC champion Zenyatta loses her only race ever by a nose to Blame coming from 30L back . 20-19-1 lifetime, 6-5-1 this year . Clearly Zenyatta is HOY .

Now she was 30 lengths back? Stick to posting about Finger Lakes and Golden Missile.

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 721155)
By January, it will be Silky Sullivan-like 41 lengths. And that she had to go nine-wide at the top of the stretch.

You know that it's coming.

Some bidiot guy on here said she lost seven lengths when she steadied!!!


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