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ddthetide 07-27-2010 04:15 PM

Jack Tatum passes away
 
when the nfl was REAL football.
much respect from a Steeler fan R.I.P. "Assassin".
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-obit-tatum

clyde 07-27-2010 04:36 PM

Yet another RIPer.




Why am I not surprised?

jms62 07-28-2010 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide (Post 674720)
when the nfl was REAL football.
much respect from a Steeler fan R.I.P. "Assassin".
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-obit-tatum

Give us a break... Bigger + Faster + Stronger. It is simple Physics. Todays game is a hell of a lot tougher than the old days.

Patrick333 07-28-2010 06:36 AM

No doubt about it, he was a great player. He sure fit the Raider image of that time.

2 Dollar Bill 07-28-2010 09:16 AM

A sad day for the Silver & Black..... :(

ddthetide 07-28-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 674948)
Give us a break... Bigger + Faster + Stronger. It is simple Physics. Todays game is a hell of a lot tougher than the old days.

you are sadly mistaken. todays game you CAN'T touch WRs and QBs. the rules were change because of the Steelers and Raiders DBs. they could cover and HIT people. the new breed of DBs are a freaking joke.:wf

slotdirt 07-28-2010 11:00 AM

Won't he forever be remembered more for the Daryl Stingley hit than the rest of his career? I'd say so.

hi_im_god 07-28-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 675041)
Won't he forever be remembered more for the Daryl Stingley hit than the rest of his career? I'd say so.

it was a devastating hit that as dd notes, wouldn't be legal in today's game. i disagree with dd that the nfl has been diminished because of that rule change. i think it's obviously a better game.

tatum should be remembered as a great player but he also needs to be remembered as the guy that never visited stingley and wouldn't apologise while stingley was still alive. that's a stand up human being if ever there was one.

ddthetide 07-28-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 675105)
it was a devastating hit that as dd notes, wouldn't be legal in today's game. i disagree with dd that the nfl has been diminished because of that rule change. i think it's obviously a better game.

tatum should be remembered as a great player but he also needs to be remembered as the guy that never visited stingley and wouldn't apologise while stingley was still alive. that's a stand up human being if ever there was one.

i do agree that the "high hit" rule was a good change BUT the rule changes in favor QBs and WRs opened the game up. IMO not for the better. first was the 5yd rule, where you could only "hand fight" the WR inside the first 5yds. the other changes have evolved from that.
the Steelers and Raiders were big strong DBs as groups and used to mug WRs at the line and intimidate them when they caught the ball.

slotdirt 07-28-2010 09:04 PM

I don't think the Steelers and Raiders were necessarily the ones who invented physical secondary play. Go youtube Dick Lane and see what you find.

Patrick333 07-29-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 675350)
I don't think the Steelers and Raiders were necessarily the ones who invented physical secondary play. Go youtube Dick Lane and see what you find.

I remember Night Train Lane. He would have been a star in any era.

ddthetide 07-29-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 675350)
I don't think the Steelers and Raiders were necessarily the ones who invented physical secondary play. Go youtube Dick Lane and see what you find.

i don't think they invented physical play. in Tatum's time as a raider, passing games were becoming more sophisticated. as units the Steelers and Raiders were able to clamp down on passing attacks.

ateamstupid 07-29-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide (Post 675200)
i do agree that the "high hit" rule was a good change BUT the rule changes in favor QBs and WRs opened the game up. IMO not for the better. first was the 5yd rule, where you could only "hand fight" the WR inside the first 5yds. the other changes have evolved from that.
the Steelers and Raiders were big strong DBs as groups and used to mug WRs at the line and intimidate them when they caught the ball.

Blame whiny ass Bill Polian and all the power he wields.

As for Tatum, he's also responsible for the Immaculate Reception. If he had just batted down the pass instead of going for the kill, the Raiders win that game.

slotdirt 07-30-2010 09:30 AM

Night Train Lane actually forced the NFL to change rules. He made Tatum look like a Pop Warner player.


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