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Kasept 07-20-2010 04:30 PM

KY accepts a band aid for hemorrhage
 
Kentucky commission okays Instant Racing rules
By Matt Hegarty

LEXINGTON, Ky. - The Kentucky Horse Racing Commission on Tuesday approved regulations paving the way for the installation of slot-machine-like devices at racetracks while simultaneously agreeing to ask a state judge to issue an opinion on the legality of the machines.

The new rules would allow Kentucky tracks and one offtrack betting parlor to operate so-called "Instant Racing" machines, which use races that have already been run to generate number sequences that determine payoffs. Though Kentucky's attorney general, Jack Conway, has issued an opinion saying that he believes the machines can be authorized under rules promulgated by the regulatory body, the commission also said that it would submit a request to the Franklin County Circuit Court to issue a declaratory judgment on the devices' legal standing. (Conway's father is on the racing commission.)

Coach Pants 07-20-2010 05:37 PM

:tro::tro::tro::tro: Title

Rudeboyelvis 07-20-2010 06:12 PM

F YEAH!!!



lol

philcski 07-20-2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 671629)
:tro::tro::tro::tro: Title

I second this. Well stated Steve

zippyneedsawin 07-20-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 671641)
F YEAH!!!



lol


LOL.. i threw a few quarters in one of those the last time I was in Vegas..

Port Conway Lane 07-20-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 671641)
F YEAH!!!



lol

Those are some tight turns. I want one.:o

deltagulf 07-20-2010 09:13 PM

wait and see where it goes from here.

Revidere 07-21-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin (Post 671729)
LOL.. i threw a few quarters in one of those the last time I was in Vegas..

I don't play synthetics.

Rudeboyelvis 07-21-2010 09:18 PM

It's so realistic that the 1 horse was 27-1 on the board and 26-1 at the wire

joeydb 07-21-2010 09:29 PM

Yeah, great title. Absolutely accurate.

paisjpq 07-22-2010 11:37 AM

Band-aid or not, this is hardly a done deal...god is intent on getting in the way.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/21/1...t-vote-on.html

Martin Cothran, senior policy analyst for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, which opposes expanded gambling, said his group will fight Instant Racing in the legislature.Cothran called the regulatory change a back-door attempt to introduce casino-style gambling into the state."Casino gambling is unconstitutional in our state," Cothran said. "Instant Racing is simply another form of casino gambling, and it is therefore unconstitutional."

Danzig 07-22-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 672585)
Band-aid or not, this is hardly a done deal...god is intent on getting in the way.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/21/1...t-vote-on.html

Martin Cothran, senior policy analyst for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, which opposes expanded gambling, said his group will fight Instant Racing in the legislature.Cothran called the regulatory change a back-door attempt to introduce casino-style gambling into the state."Casino gambling is unconstitutional in our state," Cothran said. "Instant Racing is simply another form of casino gambling, and it is therefore unconstitutional."


it's for your own good pais. so glad there are groups around to keep us sinners on the straight and narrow. :rolleyes::D

philcski 07-22-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 672585)
Band-aid or not, this is hardly a done deal...god is intent on getting in the way.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/21/1...t-vote-on.html

Martin Cothran, senior policy analyst for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, which opposes expanded gambling, said his group will fight Instant Racing in the legislature.Cothran called the regulatory change a back-door attempt to introduce casino-style gambling into the state."Casino gambling is unconstitutional in our state," Cothran said. "Instant Racing is simply another form of casino gambling, and it is therefore unconstitutional."

Aren't you a VP of the Family Foundation of Kentucky?
:p

I agree, this likely won't get done- at least in the next year or two.

paisjpq 07-22-2010 12:25 PM

My membership was revoked when they found out I'm not a virgin.

I had a chat w my favorite conspiracy theorist last night who believes that none of the gaming issues will be addressed or even discussed until after next years elections. That Beshear can't afford to press the issue if he wants to get reelected, meanwhile he will turn to the horse industry and whine that "he asked them to pass it"...and if re elected he will make sure the legislation gets passed.
I happen to think he's right, there won't be any real action taken on expanded gambling here in Kentucky until 2012.

richard burch 07-22-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 671588)
Kentucky commission okays Instant Racing rules
By Matt Hegarty

LEXINGTON, Ky. - The Kentucky Horse Racing Commission on Tuesday approved regulations paving the way for the installation of slot-machine-like devices at racetracks while simultaneously agreeing to ask a state judge to issue an opinion on the legality of the machines.

The new rules would allow Kentucky tracks and one offtrack betting parlor to operate so-called "Instant Racing" machines, which use races that have already been run to generate number sequences that determine payoffs. Though Kentucky's attorney general, Jack Conway, has issued an opinion saying that he believes the machines can be authorized under rules promulgated by the regulatory body, the commission also said that it would submit a request to the Franklin County Circuit Court to issue a declaratory judgment on the devices' legal standing. (Conway's father is on the racing commission.)


i find this fascinating. are you saying that you will be betting on races that happened years or months ago?

Danzig 07-22-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 672612)
My membership was revoked when they found out I'm not a virgin.I had a chat w my favorite conspiracy theorist last night who believes that none of the gaming issues will be addressed or even discussed until after next years elections. That Beshear can't afford to press the issue if he wants to get reelected, meanwhile he will turn to the horse industry and whine that "he asked them to pass it"...and if re elected he will make sure the legislation gets passed.
I happen to think he's right, there won't be any real action taken on expanded gambling here in Kentucky until 2012.


nice

Cannon Shell 07-22-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 672585)
Band-aid or not, this is hardly a done deal...god is intent on getting in the way.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/21/1...t-vote-on.html

Martin Cothran, senior policy analyst for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, which opposes expanded gambling, said his group will fight Instant Racing in the legislature.Cothran called the regulatory change a back-door attempt to introduce casino-style gambling into the state."Casino gambling is unconstitutional in our state," Cothran said. "Instant Racing is simply another form of casino gambling, and it is therefore unconstitutional."

God has very little to do wth the funding of The Family Foundation

Unless god's name is Ceasar

Cannon Shell 07-22-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 672612)
My membership was revoked when they found out I'm not a virgin.

I had a chat w my favorite conspiracy theorist last night who believes that none of the gaming issues will be addressed or even discussed until after next years elections. That Beshear can't afford to press the issue if he wants to get reelected, meanwhile he will turn to the horse industry and whine that "he asked them to pass it"...and if re elected he will make sure the legislation gets passed.
I happen to think he's right, there won't be any real action taken on expanded gambling here in Kentucky until 2012.

I am not convinced that the tracks, CD in particular, will make the investment necessary to put a significant number of these machines in. Unlike Oaklawn Louisville has competition right across the river which makes these machines clearly 2nd rate. Despite Riot's assertions that all KY GOP politicians are idiots, they have continuously out maneuvered the Dem's on this issue. Now in passing this legislation which they will hail as the help the industry was asking for, when it proves to not be very effective they will simply say that they helped and yet the "greedy" tracks and rich horseman just want more "handouts". And a large majority of public opinion may very well agree with them. They have twisted the issue to the point where the opposition to expanded gambling can actually lay claim to having done more on the issue to help the industry than the party that supported the expansion of gambling. We all know the real story but the general public in KY isn't likely to care about the truth.

paisjpq 07-22-2010 06:44 PM

Well said and I agree with you. I found the comments from keeneland pretty amusing...they don't want too much competition so they would prefer to only have them at ONE lex track but share revenue....meaning, let them put those pos' at the red mile so the trash who use them aren't at our track...we'll wait for the real deal.

philcski 07-22-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 672687)
i find this fascinating. are you saying that you will be betting on races that happened years or months ago?

Yes. Arkansas actually has this in place already, check the Oaklawn website.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 672612)
My membership was revoked when they found out I'm not a virgin.

I had a chat w my favorite conspiracy theorist last night who believes that none of the gaming issues will be addressed or even discussed until after next years elections. That Beshear can't afford to press the issue if he wants to get reelected, meanwhile he will turn to the horse industry and whine that "he asked them to pass it"...and if re elected he will make sure the legislation gets passed.
I happen to think he's right, there won't be any real action taken on expanded gambling here in Kentucky until 2012.

I laughe... wait wha, you're not a virgin? :D

Your conspiracy theorist makes a lot of sense. If Beshear alienates himself from the moderate Republican voters by pushing a gaming bill through he will not get re-elected.


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