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golfer 06-16-2010 05:31 AM

Deja Vu all over again
 
I apologize in advance if this has already been posted or mentioned, as I have not been following closely all the BP/Oil disaster threads, but.....


THE SAME FRICKIN THING HAPPENED IN 1979! How did they deal with it then? What were the results of their containment efforts?

Watch for yourself:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/867.html

Bigsmc 06-16-2010 11:59 AM

Pretty amazing stuff.

MaTH716 06-16-2010 12:10 PM

That one was probably Bush's fault too.

Cannon Shell 06-16-2010 12:30 PM

So 30 years ago we had essentially the same thing happen and yet virtually noone recalls it happening? Does this mean that the ecological damage that is supposedly going to take "hundreds of years" to recover from is being overblown? I mean I don't see any of the oldtimers down there being interviewed saying this is the worst spill since 79. It seems like no one even remembers it.

Riot 06-16-2010 12:35 PM

Monday-Tuesday, in the Congressional hearings, the CEO's of five oil companies stood before congress, and when Ixtoc was spelled and mentioned, all five shook their heads in lack of recognition. It was pathetic, and appalling. Ignorance doesn't mean it never happened.

Antitrust32 06-16-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 658518)
So 30 years ago we had essentially the same thing happen and yet virtually noone recalls it happening? Does this mean that the ecological damage that is supposedly going to take "hundreds of years" to recover from is being overblown? I mean I don't see any of the oldtimers down there being interviewed saying this is the worst spill since 79. It seems like no one even remembers it.

I read about that spill a few weeks ago, there was in article in the Philly Inquire I believe.

It was gigantic - as big or bigger than what we have right now (though we dont really KNOW what we have right now, cause the number keep getting higher and higher!).

According to the newspaper article, if I remember correctly, is that hurricanes actually really helped the spill.. and it dispursed & diluted the oil throughout the water to where it much of a problem from this enormous spill.

golfer 06-16-2010 12:38 PM

I was 15 at the time, and don't have any recollection of it at all. But there was no internet (and cable tv was in it's infancy).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I_oil_spill

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/st...lf-744966.html

dalakhani 06-16-2010 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 658505)
That one was probably Bush's fault too.

Actually, its Obama's fault. I wonder if they do the whole "drill baby drill" bit (pun intended) at the next RNC.

Danzig 06-17-2010 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 658522)
Monday-Tuesday, in the Congressional hearings, the CEO's of five oil companies stood before congress, and when Ixtoc was spelled and mentioned, all five shook their heads in lack of recognition. It was pathetic, and appalling. Ignorance doesn't mean it never happened.

what's your point? they didn't know about a spill in 1979, so....what?

joeydb 06-17-2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 658760)
Actually, its Obama's fault. I wonder if they do the whole "drill baby drill" bit (pun intended) at the next RNC.

Or they can always take the Democratic position and lament that engines designed to run on gasoline are "addicted to oil".

Bigsmc 06-17-2010 09:39 AM

....and we thought our Gov. was gay.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ech-react.html

dellinger63 06-17-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 658856)
....and we thought our Gov. was gay.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ech-react.html


great picture and article.

Riot 06-17-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 658791)
what's your point? they didn't know about a spill in 1979, so....what?

I think that the CEO's of drilling oil companies would know about one of the largest oil spills in history, and how it was dealt with, and that clean up methods haven't changed much in all that time, yes.

Kinda like I expect Obama to be vaguely familiar with World War I?* ;)









* But not Caribou Barbie. She's still figuring out Africa isn't a country.

Danzig 06-18-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 659160)
I think that the CEO's of drilling oil companies would know about one of the largest oil spills in history, and how it was dealt with, and that clean up methods haven't changed much in all that time, yes.

Kinda like I expect Obama to be vaguely familiar with World War I?* ;)









* But not Caribou Barbie. She's still figuring out Africa isn't a country.


i think the most important thing is that the company know the best way to clean it up, etc. of course we learn from our past, and no doubt that's how they have figured out the best way to provide safety checks, etc. but i don't know that it's the ceo's job to know all about all that-i think it's his job to have the people in place to know that. but i see your point. not sure tho about the comparison to ww1. a more likely comparison would be for obama to know all the specifics about the huge san francisco earthquake and all the details on how it was handled-and i doubt he does. but maybe/hopefully fema does.

Riot 06-18-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 659263)
i think the most important thing is that the company know the best way to clean it up, etc. of course we learn from our past, and no doubt that's how they have figured out the best way to provide safety checks, etc. but i don't know that it's the ceo's job to know all about all that-

'Zig, the point was that these CEO's didn't even know that spill existed

To a man, they didn't even know it happened.

Danzig 06-18-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 659485)
'Zig, the point was that these CEO's didn't even know that spill existed

To a man, they didn't even know it happened.

neither, i'd imagine, did many people. so what. it's not like i know every tragedy that ever befell a coke machine. but i can take care of whatever may happen with the 600-odd machines i have control over.

Riot 06-18-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 659495)
neither, i'd imagine, did many people. so what. it's not like i know every tragedy that ever befell a coke machine. but i can take care of whatever may happen with the 600-odd machines i have control over.

So what? They are the CEO's of oil companies, in front of Congress regarding the biggest oil spill ever, and they didn't even look at the crib notes? They sit there say, "oil spill? Before? really?" :zz:

Coach Pants 06-18-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 659527)
So what? They are the CEO's of oil companies, in front of Congress regarding the biggest oil spill ever, and they didn't even look at the crib notes? They sit there say, "oil spill? Before? really?" :zz:

It's not exactly the forum where you want to be completely forthcoming. Of course lets disregard that fact and continue to be naive for the save of feigning outrage. Becuz dats funner.

Riot 06-18-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 659530)
It's not exactly the forum where you want to be completely forthcoming. Of course lets disregard that fact and continue to be naive for the save of feigning outrage. Becuz dats funner.

Yeah, "feigned". Kinda like your thoughts on your own popularity ;)

Coach Pants 06-18-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 659534)
Yeah, "feigned". Kinda like your thoughts on your own popularity ;)

Omg it's like we're in some virtual high school where you are at the popular table and I'm at the one that doesn't give two s.hits.


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