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Cunningham Racing 08-24-2006 09:18 PM

Bellamy Road fans beware:
 
...there will be some SIGNIFICANT news on him in the near furture....

Society Selection 08-24-2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
...there will be some SIGNIFICANT news on him in the near furture....


What, he's being retired?

We knew that in 2005.

Coach Pants 08-24-2006 09:25 PM

He was supposed to run at Calder last month. Looks like he's going to be back on the track soon. Alright!

1st_Saturday_in_May 08-24-2006 09:26 PM

Have known this news was coming for a long time. Not a surprise at all

Society Selection 08-24-2006 09:30 PM

I'm still unclear as to why Steinbrenner let Ed Sexton take over.

shanej974 08-24-2006 09:37 PM

What's the near 'furture'? Mink??

Bold Brooklynite 08-24-2006 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Society Selection
I'm still unclear as to why Steinbrenner let Ed Sexton take over.

So is Steinbrenner.

Rupert Pupkin 08-25-2006 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
He was supposed to run at Calder last month. Looks like he's going to be back on the track soon. Alright!

Bellamy Road is not coming back. He's been too unsound to even work out. He hasn't had a work in practically 2 months. There is no chance he will ever run again. They're definitely going to retire him.

One of my trainers had told me all along that there was no chance that Bellamy Road would ever make it back. He was right.

Dunbar 08-25-2006 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Bellamy Road is not coming back. He's been too unsound to even work out. He hasn't had a work in practically 2 months. There is no chance he will ever run again. They're definitely going to retire him.

One of my trainers had told me all along that there was no Bellamy Road would ever make it back. He was right.

Running Bellamy Road in last year's Travers may get the award as the stupidest things anyone has ever done with a good horse. Although I realize there is a lot of competition for that award.

--Dunbar

Slewstoo 08-25-2006 07:56 AM

I'd be shocked if it's anything but a retirement statement. Hell, even Watchmaker dropped him from his top older horse's list after being on it for nearly 9 months.

Cunningham Racing 08-25-2006 08:14 AM

Can't comment further on it.....something should be announced in a week or two...

Scav 08-25-2006 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar
Running Bellamy Road in last year's Travers may get the award as the stupidest things anyone has ever done with a good horse. Although I realize there is a lot of competition for that award.

--Dunbar

I don't know about this horse being 'good'. I would say he was an above average 2nd teir horse that won't do anything at stallion, if he could even be a stallion.

Just shows you that a HUGE effort can destroy a career and all should use this for Sinister Minister...September 2nd is the day I become RICH AS BE with him being in that race. SUCKS that Brother Derek is in their though because he will be the favorite, but Sinister Minister, who will take 2nd favorite money, will not hit the board

Sightseek 08-25-2006 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Can't comment further on it.....something should be announced in a week or two...

a week or two???????????

:(

Dunbar 08-25-2006 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I don't know about this horse being 'good'. I would say he was an above average 2nd teir horse that won't do anything at stallion, if he could even be a stallion.

Just shows you that a HUGE effort can destroy a career and all should use this for Sinister Minister...September 2nd is the day I become RICH AS BE with him being in that race. SUCKS that Brother Derek is in their though because he will be the favorite, but Sinister Minister, who will take 2nd favorite money, will not hit the board

Wrong on both counts, IMO, Scav. I won't bother defending Bellamy Rd, since I will probably never have a chance to be proven correct, but your description makes absolutely no sense.

Sinister Minister has been putting up some very nice works; good enough to convince me that he is not "destroyed". Whether he can come back and win after the long layoff is another question, but I would gladly take even money that he will hit the board.

--Dunbar

blackthroatedwind 08-25-2006 09:25 AM

Yeah, he's basically been retired for a while now, they just haven't announced it. It's a shame.

Scav 08-25-2006 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar
Wrong on both counts, IMO, Scav. I won't bother defending Bellamy Rd, since I will probably never have a chance to be proven correct, but your description makes absolutely no sense.

Sinister Minister has been putting up some very nice works; good enough to convince me that he is not "destroyed". Whether he can come back and win after the long layoff is another question, but I would gladly take even money that he will hit the board.

--Dunbar

Watch Dunbar, SM might have two more races in him before he is retired, and those races will be garbage

King Glorious 08-25-2006 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar
Running Bellamy Road in last year's Travers may get the award as the stupidest things anyone has ever done with a good horse. Although I realize there is a lot of competition for that award.

--Dunbar

I disagree. The horse was ready to run and he proved it by running a very strong race. He didn't win it not because of any physical problems but because he just ran into a better horse. But he proved he was ready to run. A worse decision would have been to run in the King's Bishop where he would have been required to go all out for 7f, a much tougher task than a 10f race where u aren't all out but for a few furlongs.

The fact is that this horse battled problems from the start. There were reasons why he got such a long break after his 2yo season and didn't start his 3yo season until late.

The lack of competition in those two spring races made Bellamy Road look like a world beater and while he was a talented horse, he was nowhere near that good. None of his speed figures, save for the Wood, were anything close to suggesting a superstar. Hell, they didn't even suggest a star. That race was a fluke performance for him, much like the one for Midway Road at Keeneland when he got that 120+ number. Just some days, it all comes together.......the track, the conditions, the competition, and Beyer's frame of mind in deciding what he wants to give a race.

Dunbar 08-25-2006 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I disagree. The horse was ready to run and he proved it by running a very strong race. He didn't win it not because of any physical problems but because he just ran into a better horse. But he proved he was ready to run. A worse decision would have been to run in the King's Bishop where he would have been required to go all out for 7f, a much tougher task than a 10f race where u aren't all out but for a few furlongs.

The fact is that this horse battled problems from the start. There were reasons why he got such a long break after his 2yo season and didn't start his 3yo season until late.

The lack of competition in those two spring races made Bellamy Road look like a world beater and while he was a talented horse, he was nowhere near that good. None of his speed figures, save for the Wood, were anything close to suggesting a superstar. Hell, they didn't even suggest a star. That race was a fluke performance for him, much like the one for Midway Road at Keeneland when he got that 120+ number. Just some days, it all comes together.......the track, the conditions, the competition, and Beyer's frame of mind in deciding what he wants to give a race.

You make some good points. However, the comparison to Midway Road is not one of them. Midway Road's figure came on a sloppy track, where fluke performances and huge speed figs are much more common. Bellamy Road's Wood fig was legitimate.

--Dunbar

Dunbar 08-25-2006 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Watch Dunbar, SM might have two more races in him before he is retired, and those races will be garbage

I'll take the over on that, Scav.

--Dunbar

Bold Brooklynite 08-25-2006 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I don't know about this horse being 'good'. I would say he was an above average 2nd teir horse that won't do anything at stallion, if he could even be a stallion.

His bloodlines are becoming less and less fashionable ... so he may not get the best opportunity at stud.

Even so ... the breed hardly needs another source of undsoundness in its chromosome pool.


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