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dellinger63 05-31-2010 05:38 PM

President Busy on Memorial Day W/E
 
why is it when an ally (S. Korea) gets attacked by and enemy (N. Korea) it's an internal affair yet when an ally (Isreal)makes a move (not attack) on an enemy (Palastine) Obama needs answers ASAP? I smell what he's been cooking for a long time. Hopefully the rest of America will smell the stink overtaking the traditional smell of Memorial Day brb-cues on bring out the stink spray soon!

BTW I saw muslims in the park this w/e that were praying to the north. Someone should come up with a prayer rug w/built-in compass and cd player.


http://www.jpost.com/International/A...aspx?id=177041

randallscott35 05-31-2010 05:41 PM

I have a bigger problem with him not being at Arlington today. You are President for 4 yrs or 8yrs. Unless there is an emergency (not vacation) you show up and lay a wreath at Arlington. Very poor job.

dellinger63 05-31-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 652822)
I have a bigger problem with him not being at Arlington today. You are President for 4 yrs or 8yrs. Unless there is an emergency (not vacation) you show up and lay a wreath at Arlington. Very poor job.

He's a bigger horseracing fan than Sox fan (his favorite team) and unlike his inability to name a single player as a fav. for the Sox (instead saying he likes Cubs players too.) he quickly answered Mr. Ed and Flicka as his 2 favorite racehorses. ;)

BTW he might be the only Sox fan who likes Cubs players in Chicago and that statement speaks volumes about this hope and change Pres.! Of course only Chicago people can pick up on it.

randallscott35 05-31-2010 06:03 PM

Dell, the fact that he doesn't know baseball doesn't bother me. The fact that is not in DC on Memorial Day sure as hell does. Coming from someone who's dad, 2 uncles, and one grandfather all served.

dellinger63 05-31-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 652833)
Dell, the fact that he doesn't know baseball doesn't bother me. The fact that is not in DC on Memorial Day sure as hell does. Coming from someone who's dad, 2 uncles, and one grandfather all served.

my point was Obama said he was a huge Sox fan, wore a Sox hat while throwing out the first pitch showing he's not a baseball player and yet couldn't come up with a single name. Carlos May would have been funny but at least a name. He's as camelian and political as they come.
The day Arlington hosted an event for the surviving medal of honor recipients still brings tears and chills as it did that day. No politicians were there The 40 or more that day in the winners circle, each were individualy introduced with a brief bio and applauded. They seemed to appreciate the overwhelming reception from the fans more than the fans appreciated them; it grew from there and became one of those unforgettable times in my life. Despite most in wheelchairs or using oxygen tanks they were a group of the most courageous, powerful men and you could FEEL it!

Nascar1966 05-31-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 652821)
why is it when an ally (S. Korea) gets attacked by and enemy (N. Korea) it's an internal affair yet when an ally (Isreal)makes a move (not attack) on an enemy (Palastine) Obama needs answers ASAP? I smell what he's been cooking for a long time. Hopefully the rest of America will smell the stink overtaking the traditional smell of Memorial Day brb-cues on bring out the stink sparay soon!

BTW I saw muslims in the park this w/e that were praying to the north. Someone should come up with a prayer rug w/built-in compass and cd player.


http://www.jpost.com/International/A...aspx?id=177041

He has been a stink and an embarrassment to us Americans since he took the oath for Presindent. This is just another way of this @sshole disrespecting the military. He didnt mislead me with his BS while he was campaigning in 2008. Hopefully the American public will wake up in 2012 and not be mislead by this misleading sorry excuse for a President.

Danzig 05-31-2010 07:39 PM

i guess both bushes and reagan were too busy as well? you guys are aware, aren't you, that every president in recent memory has not been at arlington nat'l on every memorial day during their term(s)? obama was at the cemetery in illinois where lincoln was put to rest (i've been there, as well as to the lincoln museum-highly recommend) but his speech was rained out. a sudden t'storm right when he was set to begin.

i'm no obama fan, but this criticism is ridiculous.

randallscott35 05-31-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 652861)
i guess both bushes and reagan were too busy as well? you guys are aware, aren't you, that every president in recent memory has not been at arlington nat'l on every memorial day during their term(s)? obama was at the cemetery in illinois where lincoln was put to rest (i've been there, as well as to the lincoln museum-highly recommend) but his speech was rained out. a sudden t'storm right when he was set to begin.

i'm no obama fan, but this criticism is ridiculous.

Bullshit. This is all of year 2. He should be there, especially after his oil spill handling.

Danzig 05-31-2010 07:46 PM

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/05...ington-cemete/

Any notion that this cemetery is somehow more sacred than the others is not only absurd; it is on its face ahistorical. The idea that a president is required to lay a wreath there on Memorial Day also has no valid traditional basis. As recently as 1993, a U.S. president left office without having done so once. His name is George H.W. Bush, and his patriotism and his bravery in wartime are beyond question.


and exactly what does laying a wreath have to do with an oil spill? the 'obama can do no right' has gotten as old as the 'bush can do no right' claptrap.

randallscott35 05-31-2010 07:48 PM

I don't care about George Bush or any other Bush. They sucked. So what. This is the president today. That's where libs lose in this argument. We have 2 wars going on and 30k troops on the line in Korea.

Danzig 05-31-2010 07:50 PM

Jay Agg, a spokesman for the veterans group AMVETS, said the annual ceremony at Arlington is "the ideal place for the president to observe Memorial Day. However, his choice to honor our fallen at another national cemetery as other presidents have done is entirely appropriate."

In an e-mail, Agg accused some people of using the day "as an opportunity to score cheap political points on the backs of our veterans and in doing so dishonor them and distract from the true meaning and purpose of Memorial Day."

Danzig 05-31-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 652867)
I don't care about George Bush or any other Bush. They sucked. So what. This is the president today. That's where libs lose in this argument. We have 2 wars going on and 30k troops on the line in Korea.

and that has what to do with where obama spent the day? lol

things never change. people who run for president must be insane.

randallscott35 05-31-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 652869)
and that has what to do with where obama spent the day? lol

things never change. people who run for president must be insane.

You seem to miss the fact that in both of your posts you brought up Bush. Why don't you get it? If he wasn't there it was wrong as well.

miraja2 05-31-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 652872)
If he wasn't there it was wrong as well.

Why should all presidents have to go to just that particular cemetery? There are veterans buried in cemeteries all over the country, and the one Obama was at today was dedicated by the Department of Veterans Affairs. Personally I don't really give a crap what any president does on Memorial Day, but I don't think it is that outrageous to "honor" fallen veterans at various parts of the country rather than just at Arlington year after year.

miraja2 05-31-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 652861)
obama was at the cemetery in illinois where lincoln was put to rest (i've been there, as well as to the lincoln museum-highly recommend) but his speech was rained out.

Actually, I think he was at the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery today which, oddly enough, is not where Lincoln is buried. The Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery is up here just southwest of Chicago, while Lincoln in buried in Springfield....which just happens to be my hometown as well.

I haven't been to Springfield's "Lincoln sites" in ages. We all hated them as kids because when you grow up in Springfield every damn field trip is to Lincoln's grave, or his house, or his older house, or his law office, blah, blah, blah.

But I've heard from a lot of non-Springfield people who agree with you that it is a pretty good tourist experience all-in-all....as mind-boggling as that may be to those of us who spent 18 years in the place.

Danzig 05-31-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 652872)
You seem to miss the fact that in both of your posts you brought up Bush. Why don't you get it? If he wasn't there it was wrong as well.

yes, as a way of showing that obama wasn't setting some new precedent here. arlington isn't the only cemetary, as miraja pointed out. much ado about nothing.

Danzig 05-31-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 652891)
Actually, I think he was at the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery today which, oddly enough, is not where Lincoln is buried. The Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery is up here just southwest of Chicago, while Lincoln in buried in Springfield....which just happens to be my hometown as well.

I haven't been to Springfield's "Lincoln sites" in ages. We all hated them as kids because when you grow up in Springfield every damn field trip is to Lincoln's grave, or his house, or his older house, or his law office, blah, blah, blah.

But I've heard from a lot of non-Springfield people who agree with you that it is a pretty good tourist experience all-in-all....as mind-boggling as that may be to those of us who spent 18 years in the place.

oh, i see.

and i grew up near d.c.-so i took a lot of that for granted...could never understand why out of town visitors wanted to go there! i could have gotten a job as tour guide at the natural history museum, or air and space for that matter.

miraja2 05-31-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 652893)
oh, i see.

and i grew up near d.c.-so i took a lot of that for granted...could never understand why out of town visitors wanted to go there! i could have gotten a job as tour guide at the natural history museum, or air and space for that matter.

Yep.
Springfield is crazy. Within the last ten years they changed the name of their airport from "Capital Airport" to "Abraham Lincoln Capital Airport." Come on! I mean, I get that Lincoln is Springfield's only claim to fame (other than me of course) but is it really necessary to STILL be looking for things to name after the guy? Everything in the damn place already revolves around him and he's been dead for 145 years. The whole town is a little creepy if you ask me.

GBBob 06-01-2010 08:08 AM

Reagan didn't go to Arlington one year either. Typical Republican hypocrisy. I guess only the Soldiers buried at Arlington are worthy of the President:rolleyes:

Coach Pants 06-01-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 652944)
Reagan didn't go to Arlington one year either. Typical Republican hypocrisy. I guess only the Soldiers buried at Arlington are worthy of the President:rolleyes:

Was he in the hospital that year? :D


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