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joeydb 05-26-2010 06:49 AM

List of cheap exotic bets
 
Can we get something like this and make it a sticky thread?

Arlington Park: 50 cent Trifectas
Arlington Park: $1 Pick-5
Arlington Park: $1 Pick-6
Beulah: 25 cent "Fortune 6"
Calder: 50 cent Pick-4
Charles Town: 50 cent superfecta
Churchill: 50 cent Pick-3
Churchill: 50 cent Pick-4
Del Mar: 50 cent Pick-4 (2010, proposed)
Delaware: 50 cent Pick-4's
Finger Lakes: 50 cent Pick-4
Indiana Downs: $1 Pick-6
Keeneland: 50 cent Pick-3
Keeneland: 50 cent Pick-4
Lone Star: 50 cent Pick-4
Lone Star: $1 Pick-5
MAGNA 5: $1 Pick-5 (seasonal)
Monmouth: 50 cent Pick-5
Philadelphia Park: 50 cent Pick-4's

10 cent superfectas available nearly everywhere but:
Woodbine and Mountaineer

Please add any you know of -- both multirace and intrarace wagers.

I think we should define "cheap" as:
- below $1 for intrarace (vertical) wagers
- below $1 for daily doubles, Pick-3's and Pick-4's
- below $2 for Pick-5's and Pick-6's

I apologize if this mirrors any previous thread...
Joe

-BT- 05-26-2010 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 651189)
Can we get something like this and make it a sticky thread?

Monmouth: 25 cent Pick-5
Del Mar: 50 cent Pick-4 (2010, proposed)
Beulah: 25 cent "Fortune 6"
MAGNA 5: $1 Pick-5 (seasonal)

Please add any you know of -- both multirace and intrarace wagers.

I think we should define "cheap" as:
- below $1 for intrarace (vertical) wagers
- below $1 for daily doubles, Pick-3's and Pick-4's
- below $2 for Pick-5's and Pick-6's

I apologize if this mirrors any previous thread...
Joe

churchill's $0.50 pk3 and pk4

lone star $0.50 pk5

-bt-

South Beach Luv 05-26-2010 07:16 AM

Arlington Park

50 cent Trifectas

herkhorse 05-26-2010 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 651194)
churchill's $0.50 pk3 and pk4

lone star $0.50 pk5

-bt-

I'm pretty sure Lone Star pick 5 is 1.00 min.

atolunch 05-26-2010 08:14 AM

Churchill has .50 Tri's

Most all have the .10 Supers now, short of Philly, Woodbine and Mountaineer. Love this .10 supers, especially out west. Usually there's a signer or 2 per card out there.

-BT- 05-26-2010 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 651198)
I'm pretty sure Lone Star pick 5 is 1.00 min.

sorry $0.50 pk4's
and
$1 pk5's


which makes no sense imo

-bt-

NTamm1215 05-26-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atolunch (Post 651208)
Churchill has .50 Tri's

Most all have the .10 Supers now, short of Philly, Woodbine and Mountaineer. Love this .10 supers, especially out west. Usually there's a signer or 2 per card out there.

Philly has 10 cent supers and 50 cent Pick 4s but the races with supers are limited. Mountaineer has 50 cent supers, which is a step in the right direction.

The lone holdouts, of major tracks, that have not gotten into fractional wagering are Woodbine and the Maryland circuit (except Colonial, which isn't in Maryland).

NT

rpncaine 05-26-2010 10:33 AM

Indiana Downs has a $1 pk6.

ndjake 05-26-2010 10:54 AM

Arlington $1 pick 5

Keeneland $0.50 pick 4's

randallscott35 05-26-2010 10:55 AM

This should be done on a takeout basis not on a base wager size basis...What looks cheap may not be and vice versa.

Alan07 05-26-2010 10:58 AM

Woodbine / Mohawk offer .20 Pick 4 and Superfectas, but are only available in Canada.

MISTERGEE 05-26-2010 11:04 AM

Calder has two 50 cent pic 4's a day, and 10 cent supers every race

brianwspencer 05-26-2010 11:05 AM

AP has a $1 pick-5 & pick-6.

joeydb 05-26-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 651230)
This should be done on a takeout basis not on a base wager size basis...What looks cheap may not be and vice versa.

You have a good point. I was just attempting to compile a list of where the most affordable wagers were as a function of the base bet, so that those of us with a more limited bankroll can play more often or wider in terms of combinations. But takeout is certainly a consideration, and if bankroll size were not an issue, it would be the leading criterion for selecting a track and race to wager on.

Alan07 05-26-2010 12:28 PM

Charles Town offers .50 Supers.

philcski 05-26-2010 12:46 PM

Keeneland has $.50 Pick 3's, Finger Lakes $.50 Pick 4's.

Port Conway Lane 05-26-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 651230)
This should be done on a takeout basis not on a base wager size basis...What looks cheap may not be and vice versa.

http://www.drf.com/entries/entries_info.html

Some info may be outdated or incomplete. Tracks not listed have a sister track in the same state with similar numbers.

Albuquerque-Win, place, and show: 19%
Daily Double, Quinella, and Exacta wagering: 22%
Superfecta, Trifecta and Twin Trifecta wagering: 25%

Aqueduct-Win, place, and show: 15%
Daily Double, Quinella, and Exacta wagering: 17.5%
Trifecta, Pick 3, Pick 4 and Superfecta wagering: 25%
Pick 6 wagering: 25% (15% on non-carryover days)

Arlington Park-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double, Quinella and Exacta wagering: 20.5%
Trifecta, Pick 3, Pick 4 and Superfecta wagering: 25%

Beulah Park-Win, place, and show: 18%
All exotic wagering: 22.5%

Calder Race Course-Win, place, and show: 18%
Daily Double and Exacta: 20%
Pick 3 and Pick 4: 24%
Trifecta and Superfecta: 27%

Canterbury Park-Win, place, and show: 17%
All exotic wagering: 23%

Charles Town-Win, place, and show: 17.3%
Exacta wagering: 19%
Superfecta, Trifecta and Twin Trifecta wagering: 25%

Churchill Downs-Win, place, and show: 16%
All other wagering: 19%

Colonial Downs-Win, place, and show: 18%
All Exacta wagering: 22%

Del Mar-Win, place, and show: 15.43%
All other exotic wagering: 20.68%

Delta Downs-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double, Quinella, and Exacta wagering: 20.5%
Trifecta, Pick 3, Pick 4 and Superfecta wagering: 25%

Delaware Park-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double and Exacta: 19%
Trifecta and Superfecta: 25%
Pick 3 and Pick 4: 25%
Choose 6 wagering: 25%

Ellis Park-Win, place, and show: 17.5%
All other exotic wagering: 22%
Pick 4: 4%

Emerald Downs-Win, place, and show: 16.1%
All other exotic wagering: 22.1%

Fairmount Park-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double and Exacta: 20.5%
Trifecta and Pick 3: 25%

Finger Lakes-Win, place, and show: 18%
Daily Double and Exacta: 20%
All other exotic wagering: 25%

Fonner Park-Win, Place, & Show: 18%
Daily Double, Exacta & Pick 3: 20%
Trifecta, Superfecta and Pick 4: 25%

Fort Erie-Win, place, and show: 15.7%
Daily Double and Exactor wagering: 26.20%
Pick 3, Win 4, Superfecta wagering: 26.20%
Triactor wagering: 28.20%

Gulfstream Park-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double, Exacta and Pick 3, Pick 4 wagering: 20%
Trifecta and Superfecta wagering: 25%
Pick 6 wagering: 15%

Hastings Park-Win, place, and show: 15.8%
Daily Double and Exacta wagering: 23.8%
Trifecta and Win 3 wagering: 26.8%
Pick 4 and Pick 6 wagering: 26.8%

Hawthorne-Win, place, and show: 15%
Daily Double and Exacta: 17.5%
Trifecta, Pick 3, Pick 4 and Superfecta: 23%
Pick 6: 25%

Hollywood Park-(reflects most Cali tracks other than SA and DM)-Win, place, and show: 15.43%
All other exotic wagering: 20.18%

Hoosier Park-Win, place, and show: 18%
All others: 21.5%

Keeneland-Win, place, and show: 16%
Pick 3, 4 and 6: 17%
All other wagers: 19%

Laurel Park-Win, place, and show: 18%
Daily Double and Exacta: 21%
Trifecta, Superfecta, Pick-3, Pick-4 & Pick-6: 25.75%
(Magna5 at 22%)

Lone Star Park-Win, place, and show: 18%
Daily Double, Exacta and Quinella wagering: 21%
Trifecta, Superfecta and Pick 3 wagering: 25%
Pick 4 and Pick 6 wagering: 25%

Marquis Downs-Win, place, and show: 17.8%
Daily Double, Quinella, and Exactor wagering: 27.8%
Triactor, Win-3 and Pick-4 wagering: 30%

Monmouth Park-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double and Exacta: 19%
Trifecta, Pick 3 and Superfecta: 25%
Pick 4 & Pick 5: 15%

Oaklawn Park-Win, place, and show: 17%
All exotic wagering: 21%

Penn National-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double wagering: 20%
Exacta wagering: 22%
Trifecta and Superfecta wagering: 31%
Pick 3 wagering: 26%
Pick 4 wagering: 28%

Philadelphia Park-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double and Exacta: 20%
Pick 3: 26%
Trifecta and Superfecta: 30%

Portland Meadows-Win, place, and show: 18%
All exotic wagering: 22%

Prairie Meadows-Win, place, and show wagering: 17%
Daily Double, Quinella, Exacta, Superfecta, and Pick 4 wagering: 20%
Trifecta and Pick 3 wagering: 23%

Presque Isle Downs-Win, place, and show: 17%
Daily Double, and Exacta: 20%
Trifecta, and Pick 3: 26%
Superfecta: 29%

Remington Park-Win, place, and show: 18%
All Exacta wagering: 20%

Retama Park-Win, place, and show: 18%
Daily Double and Exacta wagering: 21%
All other exotic wagering: 25%
Pick Three: 12%

Ruidoso Downs-Win, place, and show: 16.75%
Daily Double, Quinella, and Exacta: 21%
Trifecta and Pick 3: 25%

Sam Houston-Win, place, and show: 18%
Daily Double, Quinella, Trifecta and Exacta wagering: 21%
Pick 3 wagering: 12%
Superfecta and Pick 4 wagering: 25%

Santa Anita-Win, place, and show: 15.43%
All other exotic wagering: 20.68%

Suffolk Downs-Win, place, and show: 19%
All Exacta wagering: 26%

Sunland Park-Win, place, and show: 19%
Daily Double, and Exacta wagering: 21%
Trifecta, and Superfecta wagering: 25%
Pick 3 and Pick 4 wagering: 25%

Tampa Bay Downs-Win, place, and show: 17.5%
Daily Double 18%
Quinella: 19%
Exacta: 21.5%
Pick 3 and Pick 4: 20%
Pick 6: 25%
Trifecta: 25.9%

Turf Paradise-Win, place, and show: 20%
Daily Double, Quinella, and Exacta: 21%
Trifecta, Pick 3 and Superfecta: 25%

Turfway Park-Win, place, and show: 17.5%
All exotic wagering: 22%

Woodbine-Win, place, and show: 16.95%
Exactors and Daily Double: 20.5%
Pick 3 and Superfecta wagering: 26.3%
Triactor wagering: 28.3%
Win 4 wagering: 25%
Pick 6: 26.3%

Yavapai Downs-Win, Place and Show: 20%
Exactas, Quinellas and Doubles: 21%
Trifectas, Superfectas and Pick 3's: 25%

chucklestheclown 05-27-2010 01:08 AM

If you like a horse in a race, do you really skip that race or a sequence it's in because of the take-out from your envisioned winnings?

Port Conway Lane 05-27-2010 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 651589)
If you like a horse in a race, do you really skip that race or a sequence it's in because of the take-out from your envisioned winnings?

If you like a horse in a sequence that has a 15% takeout vs. a 25% takeout it is something to consider. The point is that there are many choices and no urgency to wager into a pool that takes 10% more of your money.

If the horse in the 25% pool looks good why not simply place a flat win bet at 15% ?


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