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joeydb 05-18-2010 08:29 AM

No, You Can't Keep Your Health Plan
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...210294510.html

Read 'em and weep: just like the Republicans warned...it is coming true. It's great news for all of those who want a Soviet-style healthcare system, complete with long lines and high mortality rates.

dellinger63 05-18-2010 08:41 AM

I'm shocked and to think premiums are going to increase especially for the individual market. Next we'll find out that people are refusing to pay for insurance, paying the government fine (or not), still receiving care thru the ER room and the WSJ will argue for a chunk of the population it makes financial sense. :wf Somehow this has to be Cheney's fault.

geeker2 05-18-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 648943)
I'm shocked and to think premiums are going to increase especially for the individual market. Next we'll find out that people are refusing to pay for insurance, paying the government fine (or not), still receiving care thru the ER room and the WSJ will argue for a chunk of the population it makes financial sense. :wf Somehow this has to be Cheney's fault.


Well he has been using the system quite a bit lately....

dellinger63 05-18-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 648945)
Well he has been using the system quite a bit lately....

wonder if he uses his Govt. insurance or Haliburton's?

BTW Welcome to America to Obama's aunt who he barely knows though he wrote about her in his memoirs.

Riot 05-18-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 648939)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...210294510.html

Read 'em and weep: just like the Republicans warned...it is coming true. It's great news for all of those who want a Soviet-style healthcare system, complete with long lines and high mortality rates.

Yeah, insurance companies are jumping through hoops to try and screw the consumer. That's Obama's fault. LOL.

What's that I hear? A whistle?

Yawn.

AeWingnut 05-18-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 648981)
Yeah, insurance companies are jumping through hoops to try and screw the consumer. That's Obama's fault. LOL.

What's that I hear? A whistle?

Yawn.


Napoleon is always right

dellinger63 05-18-2010 12:26 PM

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbyi...mergency-rooms

joeydb 05-18-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 648981)
Yeah, insurance companies are jumping through hoops to try and screw the consumer. That's Obama's fault. LOL.

What's that I hear? A whistle?

Yawn.

What did you think, Riot, that your fearless leader was soooo smart, that he convinced the insurance companies to continue as an unprofitable enterprise?

This is the real world. Things don't work that way.

dellinger63 05-18-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 648997)
What did you think, Riot, that your fearless leader was soooo smart, that he convinced the insurance companies to continue as an unprofitable enterprise?

This is the real world. Things don't work that way.

I will look at the possitive and take to heart the fact many of the 'old guard' on the left side of the aisle will be gone forever because of her fearless leader. But she'll at least have Rand Paul.

Riot 05-18-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 649037)
I will look at the possitive and take to heart the fact many of the 'old guard' on the left side of the aisle will be gone forever because of her fearless leader. But she'll at least have Rand Paul.

Probably only until November. Your hope should be that Mongiardo wins, because I doubt Paul can win - even in KY - against MoveOn's financing of Conway.

PS - Happy Birthday!

timmgirvan 05-18-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 648997)
What did you think, Riot, that your fearless leader was soooo smart, that he convinced the insurance companies to continue as an unprofitable enterprise?

This is the real world. Things don't work that way.

I didn't know....I had no knowledge of this....(Dem defensive strategy)

dellinger63 05-18-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 649105)
Probably only until November. Your hope should be that Mongiardo wins, because I doubt Paul can win - even in KY - against MoveOn's financing of Conway.

PS - Happy Birthday!

thank you! and know when I blew out my candles I wished for the same thing you voted for CHANGE!

Riot 05-19-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 649142)
thank you! and know when I blew out my candles I wished for the same thing you voted for CHANGE!

Hope you had a great birthday day (and night)! :tro::D

Change indeed - hard to predict where this will go in November:

In KY they go far right, Tea Party Paul wins (forcing GOP further right)
In PA voters go far left, progressive Sestak beats Specter
In AK voters for further left, progressive Halter forces runoff (and predicted to win) with Lincoln
In UT, they go further right, getting rid of Bennett

Antitrust32 05-19-2010 10:54 AM

Toomey will beat Stestak. I :{>: Pat Toomey.

Nascar1966 05-19-2010 11:51 AM

My healthcare plan wont change. Trust me.

:)

Danzig 05-19-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 649224)
Hope you had a great birthday day (and night)! :tro::D

Change indeed - hard to predict where this will go in November:

In KY they go far right, Tea Party Paul wins (forcing GOP further right)
In PA voters go far left, progressive Sestak beats Specter
In AK voters for further left, progressive Halter forces runoff (and predicted to win) with Lincoln
In UT, they go further right, getting rid of Bennett


i don't live in alaska! lol
lincoln/halter are in AR and it's not so much a vote for halter as a vote against lincoln-this state may move many ways, but to the left isn't one of them.

timmgirvan 05-19-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 649271)
i don't like in alaska! lol
lincoln/halter are in AR and it's not so much a vote for halter as a vote against lincoln-this state may move many ways, but to the left isn't one of them.

..thank God for small favors:)

Smooth Operator 05-19-2010 09:12 PM

Never heard of this "Toomey" character

Another teabagger like Paul?

letswastemoney 05-20-2010 03:41 AM

"Dr. Gottlieb, a former official at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a practicing internist. He's partner to a firm that invests in health-care companies."

Gee I wonder if a man who has an investment in health-care companies...would also have an investment in making Obama look bad.

I think I'd trust the opinion of a more non-partial observer.

Antitrust32 05-20-2010 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 649420)
Never heard of this "Toomey" character

Another teabagger like Paul?

he's very smart and very fiscally conservative


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