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tjfla 05-15-2010 09:01 PM

Who runs in Belmont?
 
Belmont contenders PP's


How many do we have?

Ice Box
First Dude
Fly Down
Game on Dude
Setsuko
Make Music for Me
Stately Victor
New Madrid
Drosselmeyer
Uptowncharlybrown
Stay Put


Looks like this could be another nice betting race

Rupert Pupkin 05-15-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 648246)
How many do we have?

Ice Box
First Dude
Dublin
Fly Down
Game on Dude
Setsuko
Make Music for Me

Looks like this could be another nice betting race

Stately Victor is supposed to run.

mbahadur 05-15-2010 10:12 PM

I think you will now see Winstar run Drosselmeyer. Also Pletcher may run Devil May Care.

Also, Uptowncharlybrown, New Madrid, and Stay Put are pointing for the Belmont.

Rupert Pupkin 05-15-2010 10:27 PM

Super Saver is obviously not going to run in the Belmont. He's going to get a rest.

I would guess that there is probably a 50% chance that Lookin' at Lucky will run. They may want to save him for the second half of the year.

Alan07 05-15-2010 10:29 PM

Will there be .10 cent supers available?

tjfla 05-15-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 648285)
Super Saver is obviously not going to run in the Belmont. He's going to get a rest.

I would guess that there is probably a 50% chance that Lookin' at Lucky will run. They may want to save him for the second half of the year.

Ya highly doubt we see Super Saver(Looked dead),LAL(rest),Jax Bend(Distance),Paddy(Turf),Yawanna Twist(Distance)


I was gonna pass on it but damn it looks like a big payoff race. Other than Ice Box who will be bet down to like 5/2,Dublin and Stately Victor there could be nice prices

Coach Pants 05-15-2010 10:38 PM

Who cares? This crop is horribad.

RolloTomasi 05-15-2010 10:46 PM

Did New Madrid win an allowance or something?

Seems like he has potential (possibly in turf races), but if he's being pushed as he was in the Arkansas Derby to go to the Belmont then this might go a long way in telling who's decision it was to run heavily-campaigned Summer Bird in the Japan Cup Dirt.

my miss storm cat 05-15-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 648254)
Stately Victor is supposed to run.

Oh yea!!! Thanks for the news!!!

I wonder if I'll match the amount I lost on him in the Derby or surpass it. :D :confused: :wf

eajinabi 05-15-2010 11:03 PM

I dont see how Ice Box loses in this race. Zito first and second

Rudeboyelvis 05-15-2010 11:08 PM

My guess is that Noble's Promise will be entered, take money, and be destroyed.

I would not discount First Dude ala Da Tara to take a stab on the front end.... The Dude is game... Ice Box seems the logical choice at this point...

Indian Charlie 05-15-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 648306)
I dont see how Ice Box loses in this race. Zito first and second

I don't see him winning it based on his running style.

The race is still 3 weeks out though.

Danzig 05-15-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 648310)
My guess is that Noble's Promise will be entered, take money, and be destroyed.

I would not discount First Dude ala Da Tara to take a stab on the front end.... The Dude is game... Ice Box seems the logical choice at this point...

noble's promise is supposed to go over seas, running in a group one race on the turf. they know he's not a classic distance horse.

letswastemoney 05-16-2010 12:01 AM

Ice Box won't get the right set up. He looks good visually for 12 f because of his closing style, but his ability to close could also be flattened out by the distance.

eajinabi 05-16-2010 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 648312)
I don't see him winning it based on his running style.

The race is still 3 weeks out though.

He is this years Jazil

eajinabi 05-16-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 648327)
Ice Box won't get the right set up. He looks good visually for 12 f because of his closing style, but his ability to close could also be flattened out by the distance.

Its not like the prospective field that will be running against will be anything stellar either. The win relies on when Lezcano pushes the button for Ice Box to go. He had 5 weeks rest and should be sitting on a big performance. I just hope they try him on Turf in his subsequent starts. I feel he could be a monster turf horse than a dirt horse in his career.

Rupert Pupkin 05-16-2010 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 648306)
I dont see how Ice Box loses in this race. Zito first and second

I think he has a chance but he's far from a lock. In the Derby, there was a really fast pace and everyone was stopping. He won't get nearly as good of a set-up in the Belmont.

On the one hand, you would think that he would have no problem with the extra distance. On the other hand, it's pretty tough to run 1 1/2 miles on your left lead. He didn't switch coming down the lane in either one of his last two races. I would certainly consider that a negative.

Scav 05-16-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 648306)
I dont see how Ice Box loses in this race. Zito first and second

I am actually a really big fan of Setsuko in the Belmont, looking forward to seeing how he is training into this race if he goes

Thunder Gulch 05-16-2010 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 648339)
I am actually a really big fan of Setsuko in the Belmont, looking forward to seeing how he is training into this race if he goes

Second this one. I don't think he's far from Ice Box and will be a much better price.

Bigsmc 05-16-2010 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 648289)
Who cares? This crop is horribad.

I'll care, when the race is drawn and I can actually see a field on paper.

It's a potential wagering opportunity, at a track that I play regularly, horribad horses or not.


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