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SundaySilence 05-15-2010 06:08 PM

Where were the closers
 
Believe they went 46:2 to the half and the closers were no where!!! I was expecting someone to come from off the pace. Jackson Bend is one guttsy horse. Then I thought First Dude was going to come back which was wishful thinking since I had a $5 BES-Preakness double alive for over $1K. Played the race terribly as I expected Super Saver to hit the board. I thought First Dude was going to win when Super Saver was backing out of it, L@L was 4 wide...oh well, on to the Belmont.

JJP 05-15-2010 06:19 PM

Lookin at Lucky was closer than usual but he wasn't battling for the lead. Yawanna Twist and Jackson Bend both came from off the pace. This was Pimlico; not some synthetic closer friendly speed-killing track.

SundaySilence 05-15-2010 06:25 PM

I think Steve Crist is right, if Eskendraya was running we'd probably have a triple crown on the line in 3 weeks.

Mawhip 05-15-2010 06:42 PM

You really would have confidence in Pletcher, I wouldn't.

SundaySilence 05-15-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mawhip (Post 648186)
You really would have confidence in Pletcher, I wouldn't.

I think Eskendraya could have run all day, he would have loved the Belmont. It's a shame that he was injured because I don't think this 3 yo crop is anything special.

freddymo 05-15-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mawhip (Post 648186)
You really would have confidence in Pletcher, I wouldn't.

The guy has won 120 mil. A lot of trainers can't win a Mdn Spl.

hockey2315 05-15-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 648193)
A lot of trainers can't win a Mdn Spl.

Including Bobby Barbara ;)

freddymo 05-15-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 648197)
Including Bobby Barbara ;)

No that isnt fair.. How soon people forget his G1 win last year.

hockey2315 05-15-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 648204)
No that isnt fair.. How soon people forget his G1 win last year.

You know what I'm talking about. . .

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SundaySilence (Post 648183)
I think Steve Crist is right, if Eskendraya was running we'd probably have a triple crown on the line in 3 weeks.

Please, if ,,,,,I,,,,,,,,Could of,,,,,,Would of,,,,,,, well staying health is part of being a Triple Crown winner. What about Barbaro and Big Brown

Cannon Shell 05-15-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 648229)
Please, if ,,,,,I,,,,,,,,Could of,,,,,,Would of,,,,,,, well staying health is part of being a Triple Crown winner. What about Barbaro and Big Brown

What if Dr. Harthill hadn't been banned from Belmont? SS a TC winner?

ateamstupid 05-15-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 648229)
Please, if ,,,,,I,,,,,,,,Could of,,,,,,Would of,,,,,,, well staying health is part of being a Triple Crown winner. What about Barbaro and Big Brown

What about Big Brown? You really think it was the quarter crack that did him in? And Barbaro wasn't beating Bernardini in the Preakness no matter what.

There's little doubt that Eskendreya, if healthy, would be going for the TC right now.

Antitrust32 05-15-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 648238)
What about Big Brown? You really think it was the quarter crack that did him in? And Barbaro wasn't beating Bernardini in the Preakness no matter what.

There's little doubt that Eskendreya, if healthy, would be going for the TC right now.

yes, no horse was winning any races with that quarter crack and missed training because of it. it was 100% a factor.

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 648238)
What about Big Brown? You really think it was the quarter crack that did him in? And Barbaro wasn't beating Bernardini in the Preakness no matter what.

There's little doubt that Eskendreya, if healthy, would be going for the TC right now.

Major problem with Eskendreya winning the Triple Crown is the inablity to run in any of the races.

Yes, most likely the best horse but he couldn't dance the dance.

The year Barberstown won the Belmont there was a s h i t pot of Triple Crown hopefuls that were better than Barberstown. They got sick that year at Hollywood Park and most died. You got to dance the dance.

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 648247)
yes, no horse was winning any races with that quarter crack and missed training because of it. it was 100% a factor.

I think so too. Sore feet , no race horse.

philcski 05-15-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 648251)
Major problem with Eskendreya winning the Triple Crown is the inablity to run in any of the races.

Yes, most likely the best horse but he couldn't dance the dance.

The year Barberstown won the Belmont there was a s h i t pot of Triple Crown hopefuls that were better than Barberstown. They got sick that year at Hollywood Park and most died. You got to dance the dance.

Barberstown won the Belmont?!

Cannon Shell 05-15-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 648257)
Barberstown won the Belmont?!

Joe Madden won the Belmont before he became manager of the Rays


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