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NoLuvForPletch 05-14-2010 11:55 AM

UPDATE: NYC OTB HAS SIGNALS PULLED.. Left with NY, GG..
 
Unreal.

Patrick333 05-14-2010 11:56 AM

It really makes you wonder doesn't it?

Kasept 05-14-2010 11:58 AM

It's not that they aren't accepting them.. they've been justifiably cut off. They likely won't have the MTH signal either. Signal after signal is going to cut them off.

No tickee, no shirtee.. as the saying goes.

NoLuvForPletch 05-14-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 647398)
It's not that they aren't accepting them.. they've been justifiably cut off. They likely won't have the MTH signal either. Signal after signal is going to cut them off.

No tickee, no shirtee.. as the saying goes.

Oh, I get it. I just hadn't really been paying too much attention and wanted to bet my Ju Jitsu Jax so I strolled over to the club and>>>stugots.

Lovely Laurel 05-14-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 647398)
It's not that they aren't accepting them.. they've been justifiably cut off. They likely won't have the MTH signal either. Signal after signal is going to cut them off.

No tickee, no shirtee.. as the saying goes.

I agree. The life-line has to be cut.

viscount26 05-14-2010 12:34 PM

Just checked NYC OTB;s website. No mention of not accepting Pimlico wagers.

NoLuvForPletch 05-14-2010 12:36 PM

They just started taking bets again. I was just there 25 minutes ago and they had signs plastered all over the joint saying they aren't taking bets. I come back to my desk and they are...

philcski 05-14-2010 12:38 PM

My disdain for the worst-run organization in the world continues to grow.

pointman 05-14-2010 12:44 PM

They deserve to have the signal pulled and NYRA should do the same (though I would guess legally NYRA cannot). They want to take the wagers on the track, they just don't want to pay the track for the service. Let them go belly up so the legislature can give the operation to NYRA. No pay, no play!

If you are in NYC then you likely can get a NYRA internet account and get track odds and cash back. Screw OTB!

richard 05-14-2010 12:50 PM

No pay bill . No lights .

the_fat_man 05-14-2010 02:36 PM

Even a 'traditionalist' like me gave up on NYCOTB (close to 2 years now).

It was hard to do:

1) loved the SMOKE FILLED enviroment -- that's right, NO SMOKING laws NOT ENFORCED

2) loved all the douchebags that frequented the place(s) -- hard not to get into an argument (or two) just about every visit

3) see above

Anyone not betting online with TS (or something of the sort) is doing old fashioned wagering.

Thunder Gulch 05-15-2010 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski (Post 647428)
My disdain for the worst-run organization in the world continues to grow.

I don't have any first hand experience with them, but from a distance, it's hard to imagine a more screwed up organization. Case after case of mistakes that hurt the business.

philcski 05-15-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 647500)
Even a 'traditionalist' like me gave up on NYCOTB (close to 2 years now).

It was hard to do:

1) loved the SMOKE FILLED enviroment -- that's right, NO SMOKING laws NOT ENFORCED

2) loved all the douchebags that frequented the place(s) -- hard not to get into an argument (or two) just about every visit

3) see above

Anyone not betting online with TS (or something of the sort) is doing old fashioned wagering.

Agree on both points. Also, and obviously critical:

4) taking an ADDITIONAL percentage from all wagers... as if their cut for doing nothing wasn't enough.


Even if you don't want to wager online, there's much better options than NYCOTB. Hell, Meadowlands is a short train ride away and a much more pleasant off track experience.

MaTH716 05-15-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 647933)
Agree on both points. Also, and obviously critical:

4) taking an ADDITIONAL percentage from all wagers... as if their cut for doing nothing wasn't enough.


Even if you don't want to wager online, there's much better options than NYCOTB. Hell, Meadowlands is a short train ride away and a much more pleasant off track experience.

Phil, Not sure where you are. But if you are in Jersey, Favorites on Rte 1 in Woodbridge is great. It's almost like being in a Vegas style race book.

philcski 05-15-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 647935)
Phil, Not sure where you are. But if you are in Jersey, Favorites on Rte 1 in Woodbridge is great. It's almost like being in a Vegas style race book.

I live in Kentucky now, and when I lived in Jersey it was before OTB's were allowed so I went to Monmouth, but good point- also the Teletheater on Long Island is nice too. Don't know how easy it is to get to by public transportation though. I always drove there from Queens.

pointman 05-15-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 647939)
I live in Kentucky now, and when I lived in Jersey it was before OTB's were allowed so I went to Monmouth, but good point- also the Teletheater on Long Island is nice too. Don't know how easy it is to get to by public transportation though. I always drove there from Queens.

If it is the one in Plainview, which is what I think you are talking about, it is impossible to get to with public transportation. They just put a new one in Carle Place which is pretty nice, though and not far from the train station.

Kasept 05-17-2010 10:01 AM

New York OTB to lose Pimlico next week
By Matt Hegarty

The signal from Pimlico Race Course in Baltimore will be unavailable to customers of New York City Off-Track Betting Corporation after Saturday's Preakness Stakes card because of concerns about OTB's finances raised by the New York regulators, racing officials said Friday.

The decision to bar the signal from New York City OTB's parlors and account-wagering operation was made on Friday afternoon, shortly after the New York State Racing and Wagering Board backtracked on a decision to pull the Pimlico signal from OTB as of Friday morning. Joe Mahoney, a spokesperson for the board, said on Friday afternoon that the board decided to allow betting on the signal by New York City OTB customers on Friday and Saturday because of the interest by racing fans in the cards Pimlico will offer those days.

"This is the best result for the racing fans," Mahoney said.

Pimlico's 20-day spring meet began on April 17. After Saturday's Preakness card, Pimlico will not run again until next Thursday, and the meet will close next Saturday.

The decision to bar the Pimlico signal follows the board's decision earlier this month to bar wagering by New York City OTB customers on Arlington Park near Chicago, Chester Downs in Pennsylvania, Louisiana Downs, and Thistledown racetrack in Ohio.

According to Mahoney, the board has declined to approve any simulcasting contracts for New York City OTB until the corporation "satisfactorily" responds to a request to provide the board with additional information about its financial situation. New York City OTB, which is owned by the state, filed for bankruptcy earlier this year, and it is reorganizing under the protection of Chapter 9 of the bankruptcy code.

Cannon Shell 05-17-2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 648683)
New York OTB to lose Pimlico next week
By Matt Hegarty

The signal from Pimlico Race Course in Baltimore will be unavailable to customers of New York City Off-Track Betting Corporation after Saturday's Preakness Stakes card because of concerns about OTB's finances raised by the New York regulators, racing officials said Friday.

The decision to bar the signal from New York City OTB's parlors and account-wagering operation was made on Friday afternoon, shortly after the New York State Racing and Wagering Board backtracked on a decision to pull the Pimlico signal from OTB as of Friday morning. Joe Mahoney, a spokesperson for the board, said on Friday afternoon that the board decided to allow betting on the signal by New York City OTB customers on Friday and Saturday because of the interest by racing fans in the cards Pimlico will offer those days.

"This is the best result for the racing fans," Mahoney said.

Pimlico's 20-day spring meet began on April 17. After Saturday's Preakness card, Pimlico will not run again until next Thursday, and the meet will close next Saturday.

The decision to bar the Pimlico signal follows the board's decision earlier this month to bar wagering by New York City OTB customers on Arlington Park near Chicago, Chester Downs in Pennsylvania, Louisiana Downs, and Thistledown racetrack in Ohio.

According to Mahoney, the board has declined to approve any simulcasting contracts for New York City OTB until the corporation "satisfactorily" responds to a request to provide the board with additional information about its financial situation. New York City OTB, which is owned by the state, filed for bankruptcy earlier this year, and it is reorganizing under the protection of Chapter 9 of the bankruptcy code.

So in effect NYS officials are banning wagers on out of state tracks for the good of the out of town tracks? But the instate tracks just have to suck it up and hope that they eventually will get paid?

Kasept 05-19-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 648745)
So in effect NYS officials are banning wagers on out of state tracks for the good of the out of town tracks? But the instate tracks just have to suck it up and hope that they eventually will get paid?

Pretty remarkable, eh?

johnny pinwheel 05-20-2010 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 648745)
So in effect NYS officials are banning wagers on out of state tracks for the good of the out of town tracks? But the instate tracks just have to suck it up and hope that they eventually will get paid?

EXACTLY. then they all turn the blame on NYRA, you know, the guys that never get paid. REMARKABLE!


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