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dellinger63 05-13-2010 09:25 AM

Those Crazy Clintons
 
Never thought they could outdo the underware donation used for a charitable tax deduction but they sure are trying.

"He is raffling himself. In an e-mail sent to millions of people who supported Hillary Clinton’s White House campaign, the former President asks: “How would you like the chance to come up to New York and spend the day with me?” For those who would like the One-Day-With-Bill prize, an online donation of as little as $5 (£3) will buy them the chance.

By 2007, seven years after leaving the White House, the Clintons had earned a combined $109 million (£73 million) through speaking engagements and bestselling memoirs. Even so, apparently they would prefer American voters to settle Mrs Clinton’s remaining $771,000 debt rather than paying it themselves."

so freaking typical!!!!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7124638.ece

Antitrust32 05-13-2010 10:17 AM

I know, I saw that... even the Dems that posted on the CNN article were like "WTF? Clintons have 100M + and they want the voters struggling through this economy to pay off their debt"

I hope nobody donates. Though I'd have some interesting questions for Bill Clinton.. as long as he doesnt try to bang me we'd be cool.

timmgirvan 05-13-2010 10:44 AM

I hear the night includes a sumptous all-you-can eat at Bubbas' favorite Mickey D's!;)

Riot 05-13-2010 09:21 PM

Campaign funding is subject to a myriad of federal law. During the campaign I know the Clintons loaned her campaign 11.3 + million. There was millions in debt left over when she finally dropped out in 2008. Romney had alot of campaign debt, too, from his unsuccessful campaign, he loaned himself like $44 million. That's not unusual. Obama was the unusual one, declining public campaign funding during his Presidential bid.

They are not asking "voters" to pay for the debt, they are asking their political supporters to continue helping them. Political supporters are limited in how much they can donate to candidates - and that includes how much a candidate can use of their own private funds to pay for their own campaign.

Honu 05-13-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 647233)
Campaign funding is subject to a myriad of federal law. During the campaign I know the Clintons loaned her campaign 11.3 + million. There was millions in debt left over when she finally dropped out in 2008. Romney had alot of campaign debt, too, from his unsuccessful campaign, he loaned himself like $44 million. That's not unusual. Obama was the unusual one, declining public campaign funding during his Presidential bid.

They are not asking "voters" to pay for the debt, they are asking their political supporters to continue helping them. Political supporters are limited in how much they can donate to candidates - and that includes how much a candidate can use of their own private funds to pay for their own campaign.

I would like to ask all of you to help me pay off my bills I know I didnt run for office but the support would be greatly appriciated :D

Riot 05-13-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 647237)
I would like to ask all of you to help me pay off my bills I know I didnt run for office but the support would be greatly appriciated :D

The point is, that legally, they cannot just write the campaign a check out of their personal funds.

dellinger63 05-13-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 647238)
The point is, that legally, they cannot just write the campaign a check out of their personal funds.

but the guy who didn't offer his tighty whiteys as a donation and write off covered his 40 plus million loan w/donations?

gales0678 05-13-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 647238)
The point is, that legally, they cannot just write the campaign a check out of their personal funds.



denise rich is still around

Honu 05-13-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 647238)
The point is, that legally, they cannot just write the campaign a check out of their personal funds.

Hmm okay then if you cant afford it then dont run , I cant afford to buy Lucky jeans even though I want them guess I need a sponser.

dellinger63 05-13-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 647258)
Hmm okay then if you cant afford it then dont run , I cant afford to buy Lucky jeans even though I want them guess I need a sponser.

;)

timmgirvan 05-13-2010 10:56 PM

The people she owes can wait the 3 yrs til she's not Sec of State!:D

Riot 05-14-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 647258)
Hmm okay then if you cant afford it then dont run , I cant afford to buy Lucky jeans even though I want them guess I need a sponser.

So only multi-millionaires can run for public office? ;) We have laws in America to prevent governance by only the rich. Campaign finance rules. Federal Election Commission. It has nothing to do with what anyone can afford or not. It has nothing to do with anyone's personal finances.

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but the guy who didn't offer his tighty whiteys as a donation and write off covered his 40 plus million loan w/donations?
I think Romney lost alot of that money.

dellinger63 05-14-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 647619)
I think Romney lost alot of that money.

and never asked his supporters to cover his a$$. Do you get the difference between the Clintons and the Romneys now? Or at least get the just of my post now that you just verified it with yours?

Riot 05-14-2010 09:29 PM

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and never asked his supporters to cover his a$$.
:zz: LOL - you mean except for that $65 million that they did cover? The only reason Romney couldn't pay back his loans is because he couldn't raise the money. He sure as heck did "ask".

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Do you get the difference between the Clintons and the Romneys now?
Seems to be that the Clintons maintain long-term support from dedicated followers willing to contribute financially to their political careers (which I can't understand, myself).

Romney doesn't.

Let me see if I get the prevailing thought correctly here: The Clintons have massive campaign debt. They've worked seven years to pay it off - speaking engagements, books, donors. This is bad. Working to pay off your debt to others is bad.

Romney has massive campaign debt. Never paid off. This is somehow admired more than the Clintons paying their debt off.

dellinger63 05-14-2010 09:46 PM

[quote=Riot;647685]:zz:
Let me see if I get the prevailing thought correctly here: The Clintons have massive campaign debt. They've worked seven years to pay it off - speaking engagements, books, donors. This is bad. Working to pay off your debt to others is bad.
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Yesterday you said, "The point is, that legally, they cannot just write the campaign a check out of their personal funds."

Now, tonight they've worked seven years to pay it off? You sound like Obama.

Meanwhile Mitt would never raffle ANY of his wives or mistresses off like the hillbillies are :D

GBBob 05-14-2010 10:28 PM

How come the Clinton's are still fair game but you can't talk about Dubya?

Probably because Ken Lay bailed out Bush's debt before he offed himself

mclem0822 05-14-2010 10:45 PM

Although i will not be entering the contest, it would be nice to pick the brain of one of the greatest politicians and PLAYERS of all time!:D Not to mention being a helluva good President, for those of us able to seperate the personal/from the Presidential!

dellinger63 05-15-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 647768)
Although i will not be entering the contest, it would be nice to pick the brain of one of the greatest politicians and PLAYERS of all time!:D Not to mention being a helluva good President, for those of us able to seperate the personal/from the Presidential!


I hear Charlie Manson was quite a guitar player if you can seperate the personal from the criminal.

mclem0822 05-15-2010 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 647841)
I hear Charlie Manson was quite a guitar player if you can seperate the personal from the criminal.

Nice comparison.:rolleyes:

dellinger63 05-15-2010 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 647746)
How come the Clinton's are still fair game but you can't talk about Dubya?

Probably because Ken Lay bailed out Bush's debt before he offed himself

I know it's been hard but go ahead and say it. W. was behind the BP oil leak.

Question, Bob if you had to leave for a w/e on business and had two choices for a babysitter those being Bubba and W. who gets the call? Ken Ley?


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