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ninetoone 05-08-2010 09:35 PM

Gomez off Lucky...on Dublin
 
just saw this on Bloodhorse....wow, wasn't expecting that. Sorry if this has already been the topic of a thread...

eajinabi 05-08-2010 10:00 PM

Who gets the mount? Martin Garcia?

chucklestheclown 05-08-2010 10:50 PM

Calvin?
Oh...I mean...Ramon? That's pretty old-school funny though. Good for ratings.

randallscott35 05-08-2010 11:26 PM

Baffert has lost his mind. Wait so its Gomez fault that Lucky drew the 1 and became a ping pong ball? Dublin might finish 7th again with the upgrade.

Port Conway Lane 05-08-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 645351)
Baffert has lost his mind. Wait so its Gomez fault that Lucky drew the 1 and became a ping pong ball? Dublin might finish 7th again with the upgrade.

He'll probably win the race by a neck over Lucky and really pi$$ Baffert off. That will be my first bet when I walk through the door, the old jockey switch exacta box.

Indian Charlie 05-09-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 645351)
Baffert has lost his mind. Wait so its Gomez fault that Lucky drew the 1 and became a ping pong ball? Dublin might finish 7th again with the upgrade.

Have you watched maybe like the last 5-6 starts of LAL?

NTamm1215 05-09-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 645397)
Have you watched maybe like the last 5-6 starts of LAL?

Gomez is an easy scapegoat for an overrated horse.

NT

2Hot4TV 05-09-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 645399)
Gomez is an easy scapegoat for an overrated horse.

NT

Maybe, Anderson would of worked harder at keeping the mount if they thought he was all that.

eajinabi 05-09-2010 02:36 PM

Baffert will probably convince Jerry Bailey out of retirement

Indian Charlie 05-09-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 645399)
Gomez is an easy scapegoat for an overrated horse.

NT

I'm not sure I see what you mean. Whether or not he's overrated, he's had some questionable decisions made on him by Gomez.

Danzig 05-10-2010 07:42 AM

i thought that baffert isn't sure yet that lucky was going to the preakness, so he told gomez to find a ride just in case? he didn't want gomez waiting for nothing, and being left without a mount. or maybe that was all trainer-speak?

tjfla 05-10-2010 09:15 AM

Well LAL is in

Hope Garcia can figure out that LAL cant ride another horses back.

randallscott35 05-10-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 645734)
Well LAL is in

Hope Garcia can figure out that LAL cant ride another horses back.

If LAL wins, it won't be b/c Gomez didn't ride him. That's just silly

-BT- 05-10-2010 10:01 AM

martin garcia?

seriously?

wont see any of my win money

What about Johnny V., Ramon, Alan Garcia...... just about ANYONE but martin f'ing garcia

-bt-

MaTH716 05-10-2010 10:08 AM

Actually I'm excited about it and can't wait to bet him. The horse has had 2 brutal trips his last 2 races. Now he losses arguably one of the top jocks in the sport. I'm thinking people are going to jump off and dismiss him. But I still think he is one of the top horses in this what seems to be very weak class.

blackthroatedwind 05-10-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 645747)
Actually I'm excited about it and can't wait to bet him. The horse has had 2 brutal trips his last 2 races. Now he losses arguably one of the top jocks in the sport. I'm thinking people are going to jump off and dismiss him. But I still think he is one of the top horses in this what seems to be very weak class.

Do you honestly think the jock change will affect his odds?

Hell, the way Baffert has unfairly maligned Gomez, his odds may drop.

the_fat_man 05-10-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 645747)
Actually I'm excited about it and can't wait to bet him. The horse has had 2 brutal trips his last 2 races.

This might be true but he'd also gotten a steady diet of very good trip previously. I always thought he was a plug but when he couldn't hold off Setsuko in the SAD, that pretty much confirmed it. He's another one, along with the Derby winner, that needs a perfect trip to win. Then again, with a perfect trip, any number of other horses could probably get it done. So, why do I need this plug at SHORTER odds?

MaTH716 05-10-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 645749)
Do you honestly think the jock change will affect his odds?

Hell, the way Baffert has unfairly maligned Gomez, his odds may drop.

I just feel like people are going to dismiss him for various reasons. Especially from the outsider money who only bets the 3 TC races a year. He just doesn't have the feel of a horse who is being mentioned to have a shot. I'm expecting the media to be all over Super Saver (obviously) and whatever newcomer they label as the hot/wise guy horse. I'm probably way off base here, but I just think he might be overlooked in this spot.

blackthroatedwind 05-10-2010 10:26 AM

I just assumed he would be a big second choice.

I agree with the Fat Man. He got a LOT of perfect trips and setups before his last couple of races. Having said that, he could win, but he's not my cup of tea.

randallscott35 05-10-2010 10:35 AM

He's not tactical, he grinds and those horses have lots of trip issues. Full field ahead and Garcia is a down grade. No thanks.


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