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Kasept 04-27-2010 02:19 PM

4/30 (CD): Kentucky Oaks Day Undercard
 
6th (1:26) La Troienne S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Be Fair Thompson T J 118 Blk-On LA
2 Morena (PER) Lezcano J 118 LA
3 Zardana (BRZ) Flores D R 120 LA
4 Rachel Alexandra Borel C H 124 L
5 Unrivaled Belle Desormeaux K J 120 LA
6 Distinctive Dixie Leparoux J R 118 LA



7th (2:10) Kentucky Juvenile S. (G3)

5 Furlongs | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Saturday Dance Graham J 118 LA
2 Lou Brissie Velazquez J R 120 L
3 Wetzel Bejarano R 120 LA
4 Weekend Wildcat Lebron V 118 LA
5 Boys At Tosconova Desormeaux K J 118 L
6 Final Mesa Rosario J 117 LA
7 Nina Fever Albarado R J 117 LA
8 The Freak Jimenez A 118 L
9 Twelve Pack Shelly Vega H 117 L



8th (3:04) Churchill DownsTurf Sprint S. (G3)

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Moralist Meier B 118 L
2 Perfect Officer Desormeaux K J 118 LA
3 Chamberlain Bridge Theriot H J II 118 LA
4 Heavenly Chorus Bridgmohan S X 118 LA
5 Mitigation Garcia Alan 118 LA
6 Silver Timber Leparoux J R 124 LA
7 Starfish Bay Velazquez J R 116 LA
8 Barge Gomez G K 118 LA
9 Formidable Lezcano J 118 L
10 Central City Albarado R J 118 LA
11 Lit'sgoodlookngray Talamo J 118 LA



9th (3:54) Alysheba S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Chocolate Candy Bejarano R 118 Blk-On LA
2 Friesan Fire Bridgmohan S X 118 LA
3 Macho Again Albarado R J 118 LA
4 Cool Coal Man Lezcano J 118 LA
5 Prom Shoes Borel C H 118 L
6 Bullsbay Rose J 118 LA
7 Arson Squad Lopez P 122 L
8 Flying Private Thompson T J 118 LA
9 Enriched Rosario J 118 LA



10th (4:47) American Turf S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $175,000

1 Setsuko Bejarano R 117 L
2 Alfarabi Nakatani C S 117 L
3 Guys Reward Lezcano J 117 LA
4 Lost Aptitude Desormeaux K J 119 LA
5 Strike the Tiger Velazquez J R 117 LA
6 Doubles Partner Gomez G K 117 Blk-Off LA
7 Asphalt Leparoux J R 117 LA
8 Saint Eligius Garcia Alan 117 LA
9 Gleam of Hope Albarado R J 119 L
10 Make Music for Me Rosario J 117 LA
11 Workin for Hops Hernandez B J Jr 117 LA



11th (5:45) Kentucky Oaks (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 It's Tea Time Garcia Alan 121 LA
2 Jody Slew Mena M 121 LA
3 Quiet Temper Albarado R J 121 LA
4 Age of Humor Maragh R 121 LA
5 Blind Luck Bejarano R 121 L
6 Beautician Solis A 121 LA
7 Crisp Rosario J 121 LA
8 Tidal Pool Borel C H 121 LA
9 Bella Diamante Smith M E 121 LA
10 Champagne d'Oro Garcia M 121 L
11 Evening Jewel Desormeaux K J 121 L
12 Ailalea Velazquez J R 121 Blk-On LA
13 Amen Hallelujah Leparoux J R 121 L
14 Joanie's Catch Lopez P 121 LA

robfla 04-27-2010 02:23 PM

nice card.. I assume there will be a P4 races 8-11

Antitrust32 04-27-2010 02:36 PM

sweet! I can go watch Rachel on my lunch break..

NTamm1215 04-27-2010 02:38 PM

That's a terrific undercard. Let's hope Saturday's is as well.

NT

justindew 04-27-2010 02:39 PM

Something in my pants just moved.

Bigsmc 04-27-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfla (Post 640458)
nice card.. I assume there will be a P4 races 8-11

2nd, 4th and 8th start the Pick 4's. Pick 6 starts at the 6th.

robfla 04-27-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 640481)
2nd, 4th and 8th start the Pick 4's. Pick 6 starts at the 6th.

thx...Starting my 'capping now...no excuses

pucknut 04-27-2010 03:47 PM

so the alysheba must be an an alumni meeting for derby horses

ateamstupid 04-27-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 640476)
That's a terrific undercard. Let's hope Saturday's is as well.

NT

Seconded.

randallscott35 04-27-2010 04:39 PM

The American Turf is fantastic

tjfla 04-27-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pucknut (Post 640518)
so the alysheba must be an an alumni meeting for derby horses

Ya all the Derby Horses who couldnt run in the mud last year are going back this year to run in it again

jms62 04-27-2010 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 640521)
Seconded.

Third it!

P4 looks really tought.

ateamstupid 04-27-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 640526)
Third it!

P4 looks really tought.

Stop using my words hypocrite. Can't you come up with you're own thoughts?

randallscott35 04-27-2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 640534)
Is it totally insane to toss Blind Luck?

Toss is strong? Why toss? Taking a shot is one thing. Toss is another.

brianwspencer 04-27-2010 05:44 PM

Joe -- I'd say much depends on who you like in the other legs. If you're going to single Lookin at Lucky in the Derby, then maybe you're cruising for a chalky payoff if Blind Luck wins...but remember two things -- 1.) Lots of wacky money in any pool on any day that has the word "Derby" in it in Kentucky, so prices tend to be inflated as it is, and 2.) Aren't you going to feel stupid if you catch a 12-1 winner in the Woodford and a 20-1 winner in the Derby and don't have the even-money favorite to kick the thing off and miss out on that payday, which won't be small pickings even with Blind Luck in it?

The rest of the sequence would dictate how I'd play against her, if I were inclined to do so like you are.

Just my two cents.

Scav 04-27-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 640544)
Joe -- I'd say much depends on who you like in the other legs. If you're going to single Lookin at Lucky in the Derby, then maybe you're cruising for a chalky payoff if Blind Luck wins...but remember two things -- 1.) Lots of wacky money in any pool on any day that has the word "Derby" in it in Kentucky, so prices tend to be inflated as it is, and 2.) Aren't you going to feel stupid if you catch a 12-1 winner in the Woodford and a 20-1 winner in the Derby and don't have the even-money favorite to kick the thing off and miss out on that payday, which won't be small pickings even with Blind Luck in it?

The rest of the sequence would dictate how I'd play against her, if I were inclined to do so like you are.

Just my two cents.

You can play a BL / all / L@L P3 and it will still pay 100 if the chalk wins the middle leg.

Scav 04-27-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 640545)
I think Loup Breton is a standout in the Turf race... I want to take a better look at it tomorrow, but from all the articles it looks like a really subpar group even a horse like Nicanor appears to be the LONE SPEED. The Derby... I wont be using more then 4, LAL is now a standout IMO, after the trip Gomez gave him last time I can see a clear stalking trip the entire way, kind of like POTN last year, and Gomez trying to win at as they turn for hime. I will back up with Awesome Act, Dublin and the filly. Thats really it I cant get on anyone else at this point.

You should play a 300$ P3 Blind Luck, Loup Need pace Breton, L@L.

brianwspencer 04-27-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 640546)
You can play a BL / all / L@L P3 and it will still pay 100 if the chalk wins the middle leg.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 640544)
1.) Lots of wacky money in any pool on any day that has the word "Derby" in it in Kentucky, so prices tend to be inflated as it is

Right.

brianwspencer 04-27-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 640545)
I think Loup Breton is a standout in the Turf race... I want to take a better look at it tomorrow, but from all the articles it looks like a really subpar group even a horse like Nicanor appears to be the LONE SPEED. The Derby... I wont be using more then 4, LAL is now a standout IMO, after the trip Gomez gave him last time I can see a clear stalking trip the entire way, kind of like POTN last year, and Gomez trying to win at as they turn for hime. I will back up with Awesome Act, Dublin and the filly. Thats really it I cant get on anyone else at this point.

Will wait to see PPs and such for the turf race, but I'm a big Loup Breton fan, so not sure I'm going to argue with you there...but I reserve the right to once entries are taken.

Point being, there's money to be made whether you play with or against Blind Luck -- it's just how MUCH you're thinking you need to get back to make you want to put your bet in. It may just not be worth leaving her out.

brianwspencer 04-27-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 640554)
I actually might use Nicanor a bit. LOL

Again, will reserve my final comments for tomorrow...

...but my initial comment to that is oh sweet jesus why am I even talking about this with you?

:)


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