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randallscott35 04-26-2010 09:33 AM

Greyhound Vs. Coyotes.
 
This article is upsetting on many levels. Hunting is one thing, this seems very different.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/sp...tml?ref=sports

Princess Doreen 04-26-2010 09:44 AM

They'll probably find a way to make it a pay for view blood sport.

Disgusting.

GBBob 04-26-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 639837)
This article is upsetting on many levels. Hunting is one thing, this seems very different.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/sp...tml?ref=sports


As a Greyhound owner/adopter, I don't have the stones to read that article as I have a feeling I know where it goes. They are such sweet and loving dogs without a mean bone in their body that it hurts to think of them abused. All they want is to be loved and to take over every bed in your house.

randallscott35 04-26-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 639845)
As a Greyhound owner/adopter, I don't have the stones to read that article as I have a feeling I know where it goes. They are such sweet and loving dogs without a mean bone in their body that it hurts to think of them abused. All they want is to be loved and to take over every bed in your house.

The article is about greyhounds used to hunt coyotes. It is worth the read.

GBBob 04-26-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 639847)
The article is about greyhounds used to hunt coyotes. It is worth the read.

Oh..interesting..OK..I will.

MaTH716 04-26-2010 10:09 AM

I have mixed feeling towards the article. Obviously not thrilled with the danger that the dogs are in. But on the otherhand he seems like he really cares about and tries to take care of all the dogs. Obviously the Coyotes are a real threat if the government is trying to hunt them as well by not exactly using the most humane ways to eliminate them either.
I think I would actually feel better about it if he had a farm/barn that kept getting terrorized by Coyotes. If the Coyotes kept killling his animals and affecting his bottom line. I'll even go as far to say if he was charging other farm owners for the service that he could provide. I kind of look at that as being justified (protecting your buisness). But it bothers me that he does it and calls it a sport, then it means all the death/danger to the dogs and coyotes seems unnecessary.

Antitrust32 04-26-2010 10:47 AM

I'm sure I am part of the very small minority that isnt bothered by this or any other types of hunting. Horses and dogs have been used for all of history to hunt... including for sports like Fox Hunting. Its too bad dogs dont hunt deer.

I'm also cruel enough to believe that Horse Slaughter is neccessary as long as people keep breeding horses at crazy rates. Just like the millions of dogs that have to be put down every year because of over breeding. Its sad that people breed dogs and horses so much that there arent enough people out there to care for them. That is the problem, not slaughter. Of course it should be done in the most humane way possible.

Kind of off topic but goes with the animal theme in this thread.

randallscott35 04-26-2010 10:48 AM

Sorry I think there is nothing sporting about fox hunting at all. Having dogs tear a living fox to shreds is not sporting.

Antitrust32 04-26-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 639877)
Sorry I think there is nothing sporting about fox hunting at all. Having dogs tear a living fox to shreds is not sporting.

I completely understand and respect your point. They really dont kill the fox any more during Fox Hunts. But its neat to see (the horses running, not the fox thing) and those warmbloods just jump anything they see. Takes a lot of courage to ride in a hunt (you couldnt pay me enough to do it)

randallscott35 04-26-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 639880)
I completely understand and respect your point. They really dont kill the fox any more during Fox Hunts. But its neat to see (the horses running, not the fox thing) and those warmbloods just jump anything they see. Takes a lot of courage to ride in a hunt (you couldnt pay me enough to do it)

In many places including Europe they do still kill the fox.

Antitrust32 04-26-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 639882)
In many places including Europe they do still kill the fox.

I know it was banned in the UK and Ireland (the killing part). I'm sure there are still hunts that occur where there is a kill. But for the most part it has been banned. Dont know about other European countries.

Princess Doreen 04-26-2010 11:05 AM

WHEN YOU ARE IN
DEEP TROUBLE, KEEP COOL,
LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD,
KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, AND SAY NOTHING.

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England has pretty much done away with that blood sport.

If there's a problem with animals, a humane death would be the answer. Hunting deer with dogs is illegal in most states. Hunting animals with dogs is not to my liking, but I know a lot of people who do it. They just don't expect their dogs to do the killing.

jms62 04-26-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 639889)
WHEN YOU ARE IN
DEEP TROUBLE, KEEP COOL,
LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD,
KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, AND SAY NOTHING.

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England has pretty much done away with that blood sport.

If there's a problem with animals, a humane death would be the answer. Hunting deer with dogs is illegal in most states. Hunting animals with dogs is not to my liking, but I know a lot of people who do it. They just don't expect their dogs to do the killing.

I always loved that picture.

Danzig 04-26-2010 09:09 PM

many dogs exist now in the way they do due to years of breeding for hunting. irish wolfhounds almost disappeared after their reason for being was wiped out. believe it or not, poodles were hunting dogs. beagles, rat terriers (yep, used for ratting) dachsunds, all hunters. that helps explain why many dogs love to dig in your yard, they're looking for their 'prey'. we live in a new world now, so people have gotten away from that-but american foxhounds exist because of fox-hunting, and of course because of george washington.


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