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timmgirvan 04-23-2010 11:59 PM

Who's your Doctor gonna be?
 
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...aspx?id=531277

I want to see them spin this one! This was brought up before the "fabled vote" and before anybody got a real chance to discuss it!

Princess Doreen 04-24-2010 12:19 AM

While we were on vacation in Florida a few weeks back, our hosts were informed that their Internist was closing up shop at the end of May.

When we got home a few weeks later, a letter was waiting for us from our GP. He's giving up his practice the end of this year.

Just a couple of examples. Probably not scientific, but I'm sure there's lot of similar stories out there.

The emergency rooms will be cleared out of those not having health insurance to be replaced by those who can't find a family practice doctor.

docicu3 04-24-2010 06:43 AM

Eventual paying anywhere from 300K to 650K for 4 years of med school, as if it was the mortgage on a home, and then making 90-110K/yr as a family practioner simply doesn't make sense. Until Obama and friends even acknowledge, never mind do something to offset the investment in time and money a young physician must make there is no chance the next generation will have family practice/internal medicine docs. The price of the education selects for subspecialtists. Plain and simple...and no health care plan for those that cannot afford insurance is going to change this.

timmgirvan 04-24-2010 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 638948)
Eventual paying anywhere from 300K to 650K for 4 years of med school, as if it was the mortgage on a home, and then making 90-110K/yr as a family practioner simply doesn't make sense. Until Obama and friends even acknowledge, never mind do something to offset the investment in time and money a young physician must make there is no chance the next generation will have family practice/internal medicine docs. The price of the education selects for subspecialtists. Plain and simple...and no health care plan for those that cannot afford insurance is going to change this.

This whole scenario demonstrates the devious,clandestine bent of this administration. It just doesn't add up to sound financial practice. The paradigm shift enfolding in this country is astounding.

jms62 04-24-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 638968)
This whole scenario demonstrates the devious,clandestine bent of this administration. It just doesn't add up to sound financial practice. The paradigm shift enfolding in this country is astounding.

If you had a clue it would die of lonlieness.

Princess Doreen 04-24-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 638968)
This whole scenario demonstrates the devious,clandestine bent of this administration. It just doesn't add up to sound financial practice. The paradigm shift enfolding in this country is astounding.

Too true, Timm. It's never been about health care. It's all about control. Government control - a piece at a time, little by little. Wonder when the effects of the "Hope Change" sleeping pills are going to wear off.

timmgirvan 04-24-2010 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 638970)
If you had a clue it would die of lonlieness.

....like you would know a CLUE!

Princess Doreen 04-24-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 638970)
If you had a clue it would die of lonlieness.



And, what's your CLUE - Obama killed healthcare in DC with the House minions?!~

jms62 04-24-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 638979)
And, what's your CLUE - Obama killed healthcare in DC with the House minions?!~

Please splain.

Princess Doreen 04-24-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 638989)
Please splain.

I really should have said, "Here's a CLUE for you."

Didn't you ever play CLUE when you were a kid? Colonel Mustard killed Dr. Black with a rope in the dining room?

jms62 04-24-2010 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 638993)
I really should have said, "Here's a CLUE for you."

Didn't you ever play CLUE when you were a kid? Colonel Mustard killed Dr. Black with a rope in the dining room?

Gotcha. Regarding healthcare. You seem way too smart to declare something a failure without even giving it a chance to play out. Everything that is out there now is propaganda.

Princess Doreen 04-24-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 638999)
Gotcha. Regarding healthcare. You seem way too smart to declare something a failure without even giving it a chance to play out. Everything that is out there now is propaganda.

Experience can make one savvy or it can keep one inert.

I'd like to think of myself as experienced and savvy.

The government can't run OTB at a profit or a whore house that sells liquor, and as I wrote on a previous topic:

<<We're being gifted with a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, signed by a President who also hasn't read it, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who has weight problems, and financed by a country that's broke. Those of us with healthcare are going to get less healthcare but pay more, and those who have no health care will wait years before they do get it, but they'll be paying for it in the meantime. IRS will increase in size so they can "control/force" participation."

Cajungator26 04-24-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 639008)
Experience can make one savvy or it can keep one inert.

I'd like to think of myself as experienced and savvy.

The government can't run OTB at a profit or a whore house that sells liquor, and as I wrote on a previous topic:

<<We're being gifted with a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, signed by a President who also hasn't read it, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who has weight problems, and financed by a country that's broke. Those of us with healthcare are going to get less healthcare but pay more, and those who have no health care will wait years before they do get it, but they'll be paying for it in the meantime. IRS will increase in size so they can "control/force" participation."

Great post ... finally someone that gets it.

jms62 04-24-2010 09:22 AM

:wf
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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 639008)
Experience can make one savvy or it can keep one inert.

I'd like to think of myself as experienced and savvy.

The government can't run OTB at a profit or a whore house that sells liquor, and as I wrote on a previous topic:

<<We're being gifted with a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, signed by a President who also hasn't read it, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who has weight problems, and financed by a country that's broke. Those of us with healthcare are going to get less healthcare but pay more, and those who have no health care will wait years before they do get it, but they'll be paying for it in the meantime. IRS will increase in size so they can "control/force" participation."

Now that you have put things into perspective. :wf

Princess Doreen 04-24-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 639012)
:wf

Now that you have put things into perspective. :wf

Good to see you've come into the light.:)

jms62 04-24-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 639014)
Good to see you've come into the light.:)

Your post was brillant.

Princess Doreen 04-24-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 639016)
Your post was brillant.

Why am I hesitant to take you seriously?!~:D

Riot 04-24-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 638906)
The emergency rooms will be cleared out of those not having health insurance to be replaced by those who can't find a family practice doctor.

The creation and development of "family practice" doctors has been a problem in medicine for decades.

It has nothing to do with who is currently President of the US :D

Princess Doreen 04-24-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 639045)
The creation and development of "family practice" doctors has been a problem in medicine for decades.

It has nothing to do with who is currently President of the US :D

It most certainly does. He's making the problem worse and eventually unfixable.

Riot 04-24-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 639050)
It most certainly does. He's making the problem worse and eventually unfixable.

Only in the minds of the paranoid and factually bereft.

And "he" isn't the one "making the problem worse" (your words, not mine), that would be the Senators and Representatives legally elected by your fellow citizens.

Your characterization of the complexities involved in having doctors available to treat the 330 million people of this country as "unfixable" and due to one person who was elected last fall as President of the United States is beyond ridiculous.


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