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lemoncrush 04-23-2010 11:46 AM

Current Derby Matchups
 
Courtesy of Wynn Las Vegas

Lucky +155 vs Eskenderya -185
Nobles Promise -115 vs Sidney’s Candy -115
Ice Box EVEN vs Super Saver -130
Awesome Act -110 vs American Lion -120
Homeboy Kris +135 vs Discreetly Mine -165
Conveyance +125 vs. Endorsement -155
Interactif -110 vs Dean’s Kitten -120
Rule -110 vs. Endorsement -120
Line of David -105 vs. Mission Impazible -125
Stately Victor +110 vs. Paddy O’Prado -140
Super Saver +105 vs. Dublin -135

randallscott35 04-23-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 638542)
Courtesy of Wynn Las Vegas

Lucky +155 vs Eskenderya -185
Nobles Promise -115 vs Sidney’s Candy -115
Ice Box EVEN vs Super Saver -130
Awesome Act -110 vs American Lion -120
Homeboy Kris +135 vs Discreetly Mine -165
Conveyance +125 vs. Endorsement -155
Interactif -110 vs Dean’s Kitten -120
Rule -110 vs. Endorsement -120
Line of David -105 vs. Mission Impazible -125
Stately Victor +110 vs. Paddy O’Prado -140
Super Saver +105 vs. Dublin -135

Those are excellent lines but I expect that from Avello. Limits used to be 500 on these but they'd bump up to a grand if you asked....Maybe a little Ice Box there at even money.

Dunbar 04-23-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 638542)
Courtesy of Wynn Las Vegas

Lucky +155 vs Eskenderya -185
Nobles Promise -115 vs Sidney’s Candy -115
Ice Box EVEN vs Super Saver -130
Awesome Act -110 vs American Lion -120
Homeboy Kris +135 vs Discreetly Mine -165
Conveyance +125 vs. Endorsement -155
Interactif -110 vs Dean’s Kitten -120
Rule -110 vs. Endorsement -120
Line of David -105 vs. Mission Impazible -125
Stately Victor +110 vs. Paddy O’Prado -140
Super Saver +105 vs. Dublin -135

Do you have Wynn's Derby future odds?


--Dunbar

randallscott35 04-23-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 638596)
Awesome Act to CRUSH American Lion looks great to me.

Then you should fly to Vegas and bet it. 20 horse field. Anything can happen.

robfla 04-23-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 638557)
Do you have Wynn's Derby future odds?


--Dunbar

from 4/20/2010

http://www.brisnet.com/php/fw/bris_library/Index

ESK = 8/5
LAL = 5/1
SID = 7/1
AMER LION = 9/1

Dunbar 04-23-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfla (Post 638602)
from 4/20/2010

http://www.brisnet.com/php/fw/bris_library/Index

ESK = 8/5
LAL = 5/1
SID = 7/1
AMER LION = 9/1

Thanks for the link. If the 4/19 Wynn odds are still accurate today, then Wynn's odds are better than either TheGreek or 5Dimes for 4 horses: Endorsement (27-1), Make Music For Me (75-1), Awesome Act (20-1), and Stately Victor (40-1).

I just posted TheGreek's and 5Dimes' futures in another thread.


--Dunbar

MarkyD 04-23-2010 01:41 PM

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Dunbar, I kept this from Pinnacle last year before race...

Just imagine you had put 100 on him

randallscott35 04-23-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyD (Post 638622)
Dunbar, I kept this from Pinnacle last year before race...

Just imagine you had put 100 on him

That's why 50-1 was an underlay. You deserved far more if you cashed on him.

cakes44 04-23-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfla (Post 638602)
from 4/20/2010

http://www.brisnet.com/php/fw/bris_library/Index

ESK = 8/5
LAL = 5/1
SID = 7/1
AMER LION = 9/1

Oh my goodness.

robfla 04-23-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 638632)
Oh my goodness.

My thoughts exactly.

someone must have plunked down some decent change on him.

lemoncrush 04-23-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfla (Post 638644)
My thoughts exactly.

someone must have plunked down some decent change on him.

American Lion was a popular future bet late in 2009 and early in 2010.
I think they moved his line down to 12-1 around the start of January.
I got him at 40-1 in November a few weeks after his strong maiden win at Keenland, which was obviously way too low of a price to take on him at that point, but it was just for $10.

His current line isn't indicitive of what he'll be on derby day, but Wynn is keeping it low since they took so much action on him several months ago, before the major 3-yo preps.

Dunbar 04-23-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkyD (Post 638622)
Dunbar, I kept this from Pinnacle last year before race...

Just imagine you had put 100 on him


Yep, at 200-1, MTB might have been tempting. He was "only" 100-1 in my own line. 5Dimes was only offering 110-1, and TheGreek 85-1.

Pinnacle will probably put up a line for this year's Derby next week.

--Dunbar


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