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Dog Fight Videos Are Free Speech
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I'm simultaneously disgusted by the idea of the videos and supportive of the court's decision. The two aren't mutually exclusive ideas to me.
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Perhaps if enough people watch these videos, they'll realize how heinous the sport is and how despicable the people who involve themselves in it deserve a special circle in hell when they die.
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you say exactly what i was thinking. they took on the westboro case-i don't imagine they'll rule the way many want them to there either. i find those people despicable, but i don't see how the court can't rule they're entitled to free speech. |
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I could never imagine putting my precious and beautiful dog, Honey Ryder, in a fight for her life and those that do are truly despicable. |
It's not just about the dogs who do the fighting, it's about the hundreds of dogs that are stolen off people's property and used as test dogs to get the fighting dogs to fight and kill.
Disgusting, and the punishment these people get doesn't fit their crime. I'd like to see a video made whereby one of these scumbuckets get in there and fight against one of those dogs buck bare naked and no weapons. That's what I'd call freedom of speech. |
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i find their actions to be so far beyond objectionable, they are disgusting. but i don't see how they can be stopped either. |
When I first read the article on CNN, I looked at the comments and people seemed to be pretty clueless about the law and what's involved in free speech if they really thought about it. I gotta stop doing that, it just makes me angry. The statute would criminalize people trying to use these videos to attack the situation, not to encourage it. I bet PETA has it available for viewing. Much as I'd love for them to get yelled at for something, this ain't it.
The dog fighting videos aren't like pedophilia videos. Those inclined to do this don't get off on watching the videos per se, they might learn more about how to do it, but they kinda wanna be there in person. |
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Like no one knows this is you. |
i'm surprised there was a dissent. this was a no brainer for anyone with a basic understanding that freedom of speech also means freedom of speech you hate.
nothing in this case endorses animal cruelty. the acts depicted in dog fight and crush video's remain illegal in all states. they've simply ruled not to add speech which depicts animal cruelty to the short list of speech that isn't protected by the 1st amendment. the ruling also left an open door to congress. it said the 1999 law was over broad. a narrowly defined law specifically targeting dog fight and crush video's may be constitutional. in then interim, you no longer need to worry about posting that video of your neighbor killing a snake. |
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i thought the obscenity decision was a reach. and although you're now still free post a video of your daughter stepping on a spider, you better be sure there's nothing of prurient interest to any imaginable pervert in the way she's dressed. i get that defamation isn't a first amendment right. i think the child porn decision is problematic. |
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The justices Tuesday concluded the scope and intent of the decade-old statute was overly broad. "The First Amendment itself reflects a judgment by the American people that the benefits of its restrictions on the government outweigh its costs," said Chief Justice John Roberts. He concluded Congress had not sufficiently shown "depictions" of dogfighting were enough to justify a special category of exclusion from free speech protection. If the law had been upheld, it would have been only the second time the Supreme Court had identified a form of speech undeserving of protection by the First Amendment. The justices in 1982 banned the distribution of child pornography |
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