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joeydb 01-18-2010 08:49 AM

Republican Senator in Massachusetts?
 
Could be history in the making. Imagine, there actually are two parties, even in Bluer than Blue Taxachusetts.

What spin will the press put on it if it happens?

randallscott35 01-18-2010 08:50 AM

A rejection of Obama and the Dems. Wait till November.

dellinger63 01-18-2010 10:13 AM

I heard MA is 3-1 registered dems.

This would be unbelievable and a huge shout out to Obama to STOP!

GBBob 01-18-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I heard MA is 3-1 registered dems.

This would be unbelievable and a huge shout out to Obama to STOP!

The opponent is running as an Independant, yet voted Righty 96% of the time? At least run as who you are..A Republican, nothing more, nothing less.

Fortunately, it won't change the agenda..will make it harder to pass the Health Care Bill, but everything else is a go fortunately.

Plus..I'll still be surprised if she loses..The Dems will get the vote out against this wolf in sheep's clothes

ddthetide 01-18-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
The opponent is running as an Independant, yet voted Righty 96% of the time? At least run as who you are..A Republican, nothing more, nothing less.

Fortunately, it won't change the agenda..will make it harder to pass the Health Care Bill, but everything else is a go fortunately.

Plus..I'll still be surprised if she loses..The Dems will get the vote out against this wolf in sheep's clothes

i'm sure they can "dig up" some dead people to vote, just like happens in chicago.:rolleyes:

witchdoctor 01-18-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i'm sure they can "dig up" some dead people to vote, just like happens in chicago.:rolleyes:


Also, voe early and vote often will probably be the theme.

Riot 01-18-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
.The Dems will get the vote out against this wolf in sheep's clothes

Check out his Cosmo centerfold - no clothing at all :rolleyes:

witchdoctor 01-18-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Check out his Cosmo centerfold - no clothing at all :rolleyes:


He has nothing to hide.

SOREHOOF 01-18-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I heard MA is 3-1 registered dems.

This would be unbelievable and a huge shout out to Obama to STOP!

I read Mass. is 51% Independants, with Democrats outnumbering Republicans 3-1.

SOREHOOF 01-18-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
The opponent is running as an Independant, yet voted Righty 96% of the time? At least run as who you are..A Republican, nothing more, nothing less.

If what I read about Mass. being 51% Independant is indeed true, maybe the good people of Mass. should register as who they are..Liberal Democrats, nothing more, nothing less.

Rileyoriley 01-18-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
The opponent is running as an Independant, yet voted Righty 96% of the time? At least run as who you are..A Republican, nothing more, nothing less.

Fortunately, it won't change the agenda..will make it harder to pass the Health Care Bill, but everything else is a go fortunately.

Plus..I'll still be surprised if she loses..The Dems will get the vote out against this wolf in sheep's clothes

Brown is a republican and running as one. Stop listening to Coakley's ads.

Rileyoriley 01-18-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Check out his Cosmo centerfold - no clothing at all :rolleyes:


Careful Riot. Your desperation is showing. Keep in mind they are running for the seat of a man that left a woman to drown.

SOREHOOF 01-18-2010 06:26 PM

If He loses in Mass. tomorrow maybe he can run to take Gillibrands seat in NY in Nov.

Nascar1966 01-18-2010 06:53 PM

Im pulling for the Republican in this. Nothing would more fun to see than that worthless Health Reform Bill not passing. If Coakley loses hopefully Pelosi will be next.

Gaelic Storm 01-18-2010 06:53 PM

Gillibrand may not win the primary for her seat.

GBBob 01-18-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
Careful Riot. Your desperation is showing. Keep in mind they are running for the seat of a man that left a woman to drown.

And did more for the poor and needy by himself then all the Republicans of the last 20 years put together

Coach Pants 01-18-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
And did more for the poor and needy by himself then all the Republicans of the last 20 years put together

Which, in part, is the cause of why the country is on the brink of bankruptcy. Thanks, dead murderer with the gigantic head!
:rolleyes:

Riot 01-18-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
Careful Riot. Your desperation is showing. Keep in mind they are running for the seat of a man that left a woman to drown.

Desperation? I don't care if he was a Cosmo centerfold. Now he wants to be famous by being a politician instead. Not unusual.

Coakley is certainly no Kennedy. Unimpressive. Brown is the typical mindless yapper of "conservative values" with no substance. Neither one can fill Kennedy's shoes. It would be a "lesser of two evils" vote for me.

It will all come down to what the weather is Tuesday - a minority party turnout outgunned 3-1 by a majority party that may or may not care who is in that seat. I do think the minority turnout will be there, the majority won't bother, and I suspect Brown will barely win.

If she loses, it's not that big a deal on a national level. At least not how the news orgs are framing this. Healthcare reform will still pass easily.

I think the GOP are making a huge mistake to make this a national issue "If she loses, it reflects negatively on Obama and healthcare" - because if she wins, they'll have to eat that in a terrible way.

hi_im_god 01-18-2010 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot
Desperation? I don't care if he was a Cosmo centerfold. Now he wants to be famous by being a politician instead. Not unusual.

Coakley is certainly no Kennedy. Unimpressive. Brown is the typical mindless yapper of "conservative values" with no substance. Neither one can fill Kennedy's shoes. It would be a "lesser of two evils" vote for me.

It will all come down to what the weather is Tuesday - a minority party turnout outgunned 3-1 by a majority party that may or may not care who is in that seat. I do think the minority turnout will be there, the majority won't bother, and I suspect Brown will barely win.

If she loses, it's not that big a deal on a national level. At least not how the news orgs are framing this. Healthcare reform will still pass easily.

I think the GOP are making a huge mistake to make this a national issue "If she loses, it reflects negatively on Obama and healthcare" - because if she wins, they'll have to eat that in a terrible way.

i'm on your side but i think this analysis is off. it's a no lose for republicans. dems are spending money on a race they shouldn't have to.

republican's frame this as a referendum on obama and healthcare because there's no downside to that argument. if coakley eeks out a win, wednesday morning the headline is "massachusetts almost elected a republican", not "america endorses obama".

we're better off dealing in political realities and not repeating bush's error of exaggerating narrow victories into imagined political capital.

on the other hand, unlike you i think coakley's still more likely to pull off a too narrow win than actually lose.

if she doesn't, i'll change my opinion that healthcare is a lose/lose for democrats but it's a lesser loss pushing it through to accepting that the country isn't ready for this.

hi_im_god 01-18-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot
Desperation? I don't care if he was a Cosmo centerfold. Now he wants to be famous by being a politician instead. Not unusual.

Coakley is certainly no Kennedy. Unimpressive. Brown is the typical mindless yapper of "conservative values" with no substance. Neither one can fill Kennedy's shoes. It would be a "lesser of two evils" vote for me.

It will all come down to what the weather is Tuesday - a minority party turnout outgunned 3-1 by a majority party that may or may not care who is in that seat. I do think the minority turnout will be there, the majority won't bother, and I suspect Brown will barely win.

If she loses, it's not that big a deal on a national level. At least not how the news orgs are framing this. Healthcare reform will still pass easily.

I think the GOP are making a huge mistake to make this a national issue "If she loses, it reflects negatively on Obama and healthcare" - because if she wins, they'll have to eat that in a terrible way.

i also want to note how it's possible that we disagree on stuff like this but not invent terms like "dino".

i still think the extreme right takeover of the republican party is it's doom.


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