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Sightseek 12-21-2009 11:37 AM

Quality Road
 
Sharp work today at Palm Meadows (Harlem Rocker too). Pointing to Hal's Hope...Let's hope the gate issues are resolved so we can finally see who the best male horse is in America.

RolloTomasi 12-21-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Sharp work today at Palm Meadows (Harlem Rocker too). Pointing to Hal's Hope...Let's hope the gate issues are resolved so we can finally see who the best male horse is in America.

Did the gate issues keep him from winning the Travers and Jockey Club Gold Cup?

Or is the broken-legged Summer Bird's campaign wiped off the slate?

Gander 12-21-2009 12:53 PM

The gate issues are behind him. You will see him opening day (Sunday) at Gulfstream. Ironically, Jimmy Jerken's new hope for the Kentucky Derby (Afleet Express) will also be running a few days into the week, on Friday 1/8 I believe.

RolloTomasi 12-21-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
The gate issues are behind him. You will see him opening day (Sunday) at Gulfstream. Ironically, Jimmy Jerken's new hope for the Kentucky Derby (Afleet Express) will also be running a few days into the week, on Friday 1/8 I believe.

That was more forced than a jailhouse love connection.

Gander 12-21-2009 01:13 PM

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That was more forced than a jailhouse love connection.

And thats so funny I spit out my gatorade.

johnny pinwheel 12-22-2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Did the gate issues keep him from winning the Travers and Jockey Club Gold Cup?

no. but missing 5 months of racing could not of helped. the horse lacks seasoning. i think he still has some things to prove. i'm glad hes back.

RockHardTen1985 12-22-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Did the gate issues keep him from winning the Travers and Jockey Club Gold Cup?

Or is the broken-legged Summer Bird's campaign wiped off the slate?

He acted up before the Travers, it was not horrible, but bad enough. He is clearly the best dirt horse in America and its a shame he never got a dry track to prove it against Summer Bird. This takes nothing away from Summer Bird he had a great year on dirt and I hope he comes back strong next year and recovers from this injury.

RolloTomasi 12-22-2009 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
He acted up before the Travers, it was not horrible, but bad enough. He is clearly the best dirt horse in America and its a shame he never got a dry track to prove it against Summer Bird. This takes nothing away from Summer Bird he had a great year on dirt and I hope he comes back strong next year and recovers from this injury.

You could make a strong case for him up to 9f, I suppose, but that horse will never be dominant at 10f.

He's closer to Hard Spun then he is Curlin.

AeWingnut 12-22-2009 02:02 PM

Rachel Alexandra is still in training

The Indomitable DrugS 12-22-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
He's closer to Hard Spun then he is Curlin.

IMO, He's a little better than Hard Spun... and, ability wise, Summer Bird's probably a little closer to like a Ten Most Wanted than a Curlin.

RolloTomasi 12-22-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
IMO, He's a little better than Hard Spun... and, ability wise, Summer Bird's probably a little closer to like a Ten Most Wanted than a Curlin.

Yep. Though I have my reservations that Quality Road will ever be able to repeat his Florida races or the Amsterdam.

When you have a 4yo with 7 starts that "lacks seasoning" you're probably dealing with a horse that can't hold together (physically and/or mentally).

He's more likely to emulate Discreet Cat at 4 than say a horse like Left Bank.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-22-2009 03:18 PM

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He's more likely to emulate Discreet Cat at 4 than say a horse like Left Bank.

I don't know - Discreet Cat couldn't win an allowance race at age 4.

He was long, long, long gone.

chucklestheclown 12-23-2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
IMO, He's a little better than Hard Spun... and, ability wise, Summer Bird's probably a little closer to like a Ten Most Wanted than a Curlin.

That is really unfair. Ten Most Wanted was a very useful horse.

Sightseek 12-27-2009 08:34 PM

Likely to be a public workout if Pletcher doesn't send his other horses:

http://www.gulfstreampark.com/NR/rdo...lsHopeNoms.pdf

RolloTomasi 12-27-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Likely to be a public workout if Pletcher doesn't send his other horses:

http://www.gulfstreampark.com/NR/rdo...lsHopeNoms.pdf

I'll take Mambo In Seattle if Kiaran McLaughlin is really the trainer.

NTamm1215 12-27-2009 10:00 PM

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I'll take Mambo In Seattle if Kiaran McLaughlin is really the trainer.

I remember reading somewhere that McLaughlin took over his training but can't find the article.

That being said, QR is about 1000x better than Slowpoke in Seattle.

NT

RolloTomasi 12-27-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I remember reading somewhere that McLaughlin took over his training but can't find the article.

That being said, QR is about 1000x better than Slowpoke in Seattle.

Fair enough. However, with nagging question marks surrounding Quality Road, taking a long look at a one-time up-and-comer switching from a 10% barn to a 30% barn isn't a complete waste of time.

Of course, even when he was going good, I don't think people envisioned Mambo In Seattle as a miler-type.

Indian Charlie 12-27-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHard1985
I remember reading somewhere that McLaughlin took over his training but can't find the article.

That being said, QR is about 10x better than Slowpoke in Seattle.

FTFY!!

chucklestheclown 12-27-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
He acted up before the Travers, it was not horrible, but bad enough. He is clearly the best dirt horse in America and its a shame he never got a dry track to prove it against Summer Bird. This takes nothing away from Summer Bird he had a great year on dirt and I hope he comes back strong next year and recovers from this injury.

OMG. And I thought Rock Hard Ten was bad:zz:

RockHardTen1985 12-28-2009 12:57 AM

Mambo might be ok.


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