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oracle80 08-17-2006 09:25 AM

Watched Bernadini work this morning-
 
Got an unexpected treat this morning while watching works. Beradini came out and breezed under Simon Harris. Harris never even so much as moved his fingers, still as a statue the whole way. Bernadini moves incredibly, looking as if he doesn't waste any energy. Watching him move you would think he wasn't going anywhere, so smooth. Hes quite a sight, I had never seen him work before.

Cajungator26 08-17-2006 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Got an unexpected treat this morning while watching works. Beradini came out and breezed under Simon Harris. Harris never even so much as moved his fingers, still as a statue the whole way. Bernadini moves incredibly, looking as if he doesn't waste any energy. Watching him move you would think he wasn't going anywhere, so smooth. Hes quite a sight, I had never seen him work before.

Thanks for the info, Mike! :D

Cunningham Racing 08-17-2006 09:51 AM

His biomechanics are breath-taking....maybe the best quality about him - even better than his pedigree and looks IMO....but then again, he is about as perfect as they come...

oracle80 08-17-2006 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
His biomechanics are breath-taking....maybe the best quality about him - even better than his pedigree and looks IMO....but then again, he is about as perfect as they come...

Joel I don't have an eye for movement like you do and don't claim to, but the word that went through my mind when he came down the stretch and finished in front of where I was watching workouts was "machine". Even I could see that he looked as if he was exerting no effort whatsoever and the exercise rider Harris never moved an inch. That was something to see.

Cunningham Racing 08-17-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Joel I don't have an eye for movement like you do and don't claim to, but the word that went through my mind when he came down the stretch and finished in front of where I was watching workouts was "machine". Even I could see that he looked as if he was exerting no effort whatsoever and the exercise rider Harris never moved an inch. That was something to see.

Yeah, I agree...that is one of the top adjective that comes to mind when thinking about him and watching him....machine...he is one of the first horses that I can remember that doesn't appear to have any weaknesses (unless he isn't a fighter when or IF he is ever headed, which I doubt that he isn't a fighter because he is so classy)...

He is so light and agile for his size...amazing grace and athleticism....like a cross between a ballerina and an Olympic track star....his gate is a thing of beauty....probably as close to perfect as you could want...his stride is long and smooth and very, very efficient...he wastes no action or expends any energy that isn't productive to moving forward in a positive fashion....and he's so strong for a horse that seems like his feet never touch the ground or stay on the ground for very long.....he just floats over the track...I'd love to walk out on a track after he breezes to see how far he gets into the track....I bet that it isn't near as far into the track as the average racehorse....thus, he is also not very hard on his body....

Can you tell I love this horse?

Might be the most talented racehorse since Bid...just my opinion of course...

:D

Gander 08-17-2006 10:30 AM

I'm starting to really like this horse as well. I wish I knew he was working out this morning, I would have went over.

GenuineRisk 08-17-2006 10:46 AM

I'm very envious... I would have loved to have seen him work. Joel, your description was almost as good, though-- thank you for going into such detail!

The_Guy_Smiley 08-17-2006 11:34 AM

BERNARDINI

Horse Name Date Track Dist Time Surf Cond. B/H

08/17/2006 SAR 5F 1:00.74 Dirt Fast B
08/11/2006 SAR 5F 1:03.48 Dirt Fast B
07/24/2006 BEL 5F 1:00.82 Dirt Fast B
07/17/2006 BEL 5F :58.90 Dirt Fast B
07/08/2006 BEL 5F 1:03.97 Dirt Fast B
06/29/2006 BEL 5F 1:02.67 Dirt Fast B
06/19/2006 BEL 5F 1:05.09 Dirt Fast B

oracle80 08-17-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Guy_Smiley
BERNARDINI

Horse Name Date Track Dist Time Surf Cond. B/H

08/17/2006 SAR 5F 1:00.74 Dirt Fast B
08/11/2006 SAR 5F 1:03.48 Dirt Fast B
07/24/2006 BEL 5F 1:00.82 Dirt Fast B
07/17/2006 BEL 5F :58.90 Dirt Fast B
07/08/2006 BEL 5F 1:03.97 Dirt Fast B
06/29/2006 BEL 5F 1:02.67 Dirt Fast B
06/19/2006 BEL 5F 1:05.09 Dirt Fast B

Trust me, that work shouldn't even have a breeze denotation, it looked like an open gallop. The track was also quite dead today. That was the greatest work that I have ever witnessed in person. I was sitting next to a clocker and when he came out after the renovation break at about 8:50 the crowd was thrilled as most had no idea he was working. We knew how dead the track had been playing to workouts. Harris looked like a stone statue and wasn't even chirping to him as they finished up. The horse was thoroughly and completely on his own and looked to be open galloping. With the track as dead as it was this morning the work easily translates to 59 and change on a regular surface and words just won't do justice to how easily he was moving. Stunning.

Scurlogue Champ 08-17-2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Yeah, I agree...that is one of the top adjective that comes to mind when thinking about him and watching him....machine...he is one of the first horses that I can remember that doesn't appear to have any weaknesses (unless he isn't a fighter when or IF he is ever headed, which I doubt that he isn't a fighter because he is so classy)...

He is so light and agile for his size...amazing grace and athleticism....like a cross between a ballerina and an Olympic track star....his gate is a thing of beauty....probably as close to perfect as you could want...his stride is long and smooth and very, very efficient...he wastes no action or expends any energy that isn't productive to moving forward in a positive fashion....and he's so strong for a horse that seems like his feet never touch the ground or stay on the ground for very long.....he just floats over the track...I'd love to walk out on a track after he breezes to see how far he gets into the track....I bet that it isn't near as far into the track as the average racehorse....thus, he is also not very hard on his body....

Can you tell I love this horse?

Might be the most talented racehorse since Bid...just my opinion of course...

:D

Sounds pretty impressive. But wouldn't it be that his "gait" is a thing of beauty?

Betsy 08-17-2006 11:50 AM

This is one reason why I am so in love with Bernardini - he just floats over the ground. I've never felt this way about a horse, even all the Indys that I love so much. Even a newbie to racing would know that Bernardini moves beautifully..I'm glad you got to see him in person, Mike! At least we know he's coming up to the Travers in top shape.

Cunningham Racing 08-17-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by moodwalker
Sounds pretty impressive. But wouldn't it be that his "gait" is a thing of beauty?

:D ...LOL...just noticed that...oops..the ole' swinging gate, huh?...LOL :D

LARHAGE 08-17-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Got an unexpected treat this morning while watching works. Beradini came out and breezed under Simon Harris. Harris never even so much as moved his fingers, still as a statue the whole way. Bernadini moves incredibly, looking as if he doesn't waste any energy. Watching him move you would think he wasn't going anywhere, so smooth. Hes quite a sight, I had never seen him work before.

That was the first thing that struck me when I saw this horse for the first time, he is a gorgeous mover, extremely efficient stride and a lightness on his feet that you wouldn't expect with his size, and he also has a way of carrying himself, he KNOWS he's special. Breathtaking horse in every way.

Nostradamus 08-17-2006 01:35 PM

I love Bernardini but he needs an acid test like the one Barbaro had at Gulfstream with Sharp Humor. We still do not know if Bernardini will collapse when he hooks up with a horse like Invasor.

Cunningham Racing 08-17-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I love Bernardini but he needs an acid test like the one Barbaro had at Gulfstream with Sharp Humor. We still do not know if Bernardini will collapse when he hooks up with a horse like Invasor.

No offense, but Sharp Humor coldn't warm this horse up going two turns....we'll see if Invasor can.....I'll say this much, I know Bernardini would smoke Sun King and Invasor didn't exactly run away from Sun King in the Whitney....We'll see down the road, but one thing I do not want to hear for much longer is that "this horse needs an acid test" or that he "hasn't had to face adversity yet" or "hasn't had to fight hard to the wire while starring at a good horse" - which all three phrases are correct.....but the again, if he keeps running his competition off their feet like he does then he may never get challenged...that is what happens when you are simply 50 pounds better than your competiton...we'll see..

Nostradamus 08-17-2006 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
No offense, but Sharp Humor coldn't warm this horse up going two turns....we'll see if Invasor can.....I'll say this much, I know Bernardini would smoke Sun King and Invasor didn't exactly run away from Sun King in the Whitney....We'll see down the road, but one thing I do not want to hear for much longer is that "this horse needs an acid test" or that he "hasn't had to face adversity yet" or "hasn't had to fight hard to the wire while starring at a good horse" - which all three phrases are correct.....but the again, if he keeps running his competition off their feet like he does then he may never get challenged...that is what happens when you are simply 50 pounds better than your competiton...we'll see..

He is beating a bunch of nothings. Invasor has beaten good horses. You are crazy if you think Bernardini can just walk over Invasor or Sun King. He isn't exactly running figures much greater than Invasor. In fact, Invasor and Bernardini have been putting up virtually identical numbers.

Thunder Gulch 08-17-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Trust me, that work shouldn't even have a breeze denotation, it looked like an open gallop. The track was also quite dead today. That was the greatest work that I have ever witnessed in person. I was sitting next to a clocker and when he came out after the renovation break at about 8:50 the crowd was thrilled as most had no idea he was working. We knew how dead the track had been playing to workouts. Harris looked like a stone statue and wasn't even chirping to him as they finished up. The horse was thoroughly and completely on his own and looked to be open galloping. With the track as dead as it was this morning the work easily translates to 59 and change on a regular surface and words just won't do justice to how easily he was moving. Stunning.

Not being a smartass Oracle because I really like your insight, but yesterday these clockers were declaring a filly the best they had seen in 10 years- hours before she ran 3rd in her second race

Danzig 08-17-2006 05:13 PM

well, a horse can make all kinds of 'noise' when they work, but of course a win isn't guaranteed. we've all heard about horses over the years that blew people away, but they were unlucky...suffered injuries, illnesses, etc. some never hit the track. doesn't mean there isn't something THERE.

the dandy is the first time i really SAW bernardini. the preakness could have been won by an alien the amount of attention i paid it, and i missed the withers.

he was damned impressive in that race. i can't remember the last time i saw a horse win that easily. not by the biggest margin, just EASY. he had definitely hit his stride that day. it was nice to see.

i just hope he and bluegrass cat come into the travers in their best shape. i want to see a RACE, something like you and carson hollow a few years ago, or sunday silence and easy goer in the preakness. but we remember those races because they are so few and far between. you hate to ever see a loser when it happens.

Cunningham Racing 08-17-2006 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
He is beating a bunch of nothings. Invasor has beaten good horses. You are crazy if you think Bernardini can just walk over Invasor or Sun King. He isn't exactly running figures much greater than Invasor. In fact, Invasor and Bernardini have been putting up virtually identical numbers.

Yeah, but Bernardini is JOGGING when he puts up those numbers.....trust me, Invasor is nice but he isn't half of the horse Bernardini is....You really can't see that?

Plus, you have your opinion about what Invasor has been beating...personally, I'm not impressed with what he has beat....Wanderin Boy?...Wild Desert?...Su King?...not exactly giants in my book....Flower Alley is the only real quality he has faced and that horse is done....

Bernardini hasn't faced the greatest horses either, yes..your're right....bvut he at least beat some horses with decent upside the way he should have....the length of the stretch

Betsy 08-17-2006 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
He is beating a bunch of nothings. Invasor has beaten good horses. You are crazy if you think Bernardini can just walk over Invasor or Sun King. He isn't exactly running figures much greater than Invasor. In fact, Invasor and Bernardini have been putting up virtually identical numbers.

I'm not sure what your comment has to do with this topic. We've talked Bernardini to death here and we'll find out more next week. Regardless of what you think about this colt, objectively speaking, he's a magnificent physical speciman with a spectacular way of going. Do you dispute that?


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