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hoovesupsideyourhead 12-15-2009 06:59 PM

parading stud fee too high
 
3,500...this horse was a glorified claimer..imo

RockHardTen1985 12-15-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
3,500...this horse was a glorified claimer..imo


lol

freddymo 12-15-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
3,500...this horse was a glorified claimer..imo


Saarland and Pure Prize wherent exactly stars on the track either.. Both seemed to be headed for nice careers at stud. Remember Shug isn't exactly the most aggressive trainer in the industry.

Linny 12-16-2009 08:43 AM

He ran wll on Poly and if that tendency, like grass ability is comething his foals could inherit, he could do OK. He's got a ton of family. I wonder who will be breeding to him.

Danzig 12-16-2009 08:51 AM

most of them are too high. pioneerof the nile immediately comes to my mind when thinking of the subject. what's col john starting at-i bet he's overpriced as well.

when the phone doesn't ring, it'll go down. but yeah, he has an impeccable pedigree. but a lot of horses have nice bloodlines, and are standing in obscurity for next to nothing.

freddymo 12-16-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny
He ran wll on Poly and if that tendency, like grass ability is comething his foals could inherit, he could do OK. He's got a ton of family. I wonder who will be breeding to him.

He sucked and was slow. Saarland never ran a fast race and
has had a few that look decent. Pure Prize has popped a few as well. I am never objective when it come to Phipps so my opinion is completely jaded.

Travis Stone 12-16-2009 09:03 AM

The US-based first-year sires for next year is a below average. The foreign line-up (Sea the Stars etc.) is stronger. When there's a weak line-up you can take a shot with some of them at a higher stud fee.

Travis Stone 12-16-2009 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
He sucked and was slow. Saarland never ran a fast race and
has had a few that look decent. Pure Prize has popped a few as well. I am never objective when it come to Phipps so my opinion is completely jaded.

Pure Prize is a useful sire and offers good value.

freddymo 12-16-2009 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
The US-based first-year sires for next year is a below average. The foreign line-up (Sea the Stars etc.) is stronger. When there's a weak line-up you can take a shot with some of them at a higher stud fee.

What does European market have to do with Ky? How many mares get sent from the US to Europe to be bred? Maybe some of the Euro mares that raced here and perhaps a few were owners race on both continient but other then that who ships for stud service?

Travis Stone 12-16-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
What does European market have to do with Ky? How many mares get sent from the US to Europe to be bred? Maybe some of the Euro mares that raced here and perhaps a few were owners race on both continient but other then that who ships for stud service?

I was just using that as a point to say the first-year sire line-up is not completely dead across the board worldwide. There is no significant correlation.

Linny 12-16-2009 10:39 AM

Because the market is so bad, maybe we'll see more horses stay in training. If so, I'm not shocked that it's a poor bunch entering stud this year.

randallscott35 12-16-2009 10:43 AM

3.50....There you go.

Cannon Shell 12-16-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
What does European market have to do with Ky? How many mares get sent from the US to Europe to be bred? Maybe some of the Euro mares that raced here and perhaps a few were owners race on both continient but other then that who ships for stud service?

What does the Sea the Stars/Kickin N Screamin nick look like?

Danzig 12-16-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What does the Sea the Stars/Kickin N Screamin nick look like?

i doubt she'd hold still long enough for him to do the deed.

Sightseek 12-16-2009 12:15 PM

They want 4K for Benny The Bull..

freddymo 12-16-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What does the Sea the Stars/Kickin N Screamin nick look like?

Tiger mounting hooch number 3

VOL JACK 12-16-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
They want 4K for Benny The Bull..

I think 4K would buy Lucky Lionel.

Sightseek 12-16-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
I think 4K would buy Lucky Lionel.

With a little left over for shipping!

johnny pinwheel 12-18-2009 06:50 AM

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Tiger mounting hooch number 3

that horse starts saturday....tiger hoochie


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