SCUDS/Rangers and Halos
 

guess it was a matter of time for that brawl to happen.

I was laughing, but come on... How many guys were the angels going to throw at and hit before Texas retalliated?

Oh that ain't over.See, if you watch this Texas team,you would see that they are the exact type of team to be hitting people.They seem to blow out teams,or they themselves get blown out.Lopsided games are only asking for this stuff.All the Halo folks are mad at Gregg for missing Kinsler the 1st time.That was a big mistake,because it's a suspension the 2nd time that he did it.Atleast Kennedy will get suspended,and Kendrick will get to play 2nd base(he is awful trying to play 1st base.)These 2 meet in mid September,and both will probably be too far back to catch the A'S,AND SO IT WILL BE a mess.Lackey is gunna hit some people.De La Rosa is gunna get hit for the tackle of Kennedy.

Halos really wanted a piece of Padilla tonight,but he wouldn't come out of the dugout until late.

Buffy,I am trying not to go crazy on you.Don't f'n talk about sht you don't know about.This was caused by the Rangers yesterday,and a week ago Sunday.


"The Los Angeles Angels are tired of getting brushed back and hit by pitches from the Texas Rangers.

On Tuesday night, the Angels did something about it.

Vladimir Guerrero hit a three-run homer four pitches after a high-inside fastball from Texas starter Vicente Padilla, and Chone Figgins' two-run triple in the eighth inning sent the Angels to a 9-7 victory.

Padilla was ejected for hitting two batters with pitches and nearly plunking a third in only 3 2/3 innings. Texas manager Buck Showalter also was tossed on a 101-degree night.

During the previous series between the teams, Rangers starter Adam Eaton was tossed in the first inning Aug. 6 for throwing at Juan Rivera.

"I don't know what message those guys are trying to send," Angels manager Mike Scioscia said. "It's a couple of times our guys have been thrown at."

Scioscia said he expects Padilla to be suspended.

"I'm sure the league is going to take action," Scioscia said. "When you're throwing inside on the counts that they threw, there's no point for any of that in our game."

Asked if Padilla deserves a suspension, Scioscia said: "It's warranted."

Michael Young, Hank Blalock, Matt Stairs and Rod Barajas homered for the Rangers, who had their five-game winning streak snapped.

Barajas gave Texas a 7-6 lead in the seventh with a solo shot, but the Angels came back in the eighth against reliever Wes Littleton (2-1).

Pinch-hitter Curtis Pride singled with one out and went to third on Reggie Willits' double. Figgins' triple into the right-field corner put the Angels ahead 8-7, and Maicer Izturis added an RBI groundout.

"We don't play for revenge," Figgins said. "We understand that you're throwing on people, but twice around [Guerrero's] head, that's not safe."

Hector Carrasco (3-3) pitched one inning for the win. Francisco Rodriguez worked a perfect ninth for his 31st save in 34 chances.

Littleton, who took a streak of 12 1/3 scoreless innings into the game, allowed three runs and three hits in two innings.

Guerrero connected in the fourth to give Los Angeles a 6-3 lead, not long after a knockdown pitch from Padilla.

"Vlad's a special player anyway," Scioscia said. "He doesn't need anything to fire him up."

The Rangers pulled to 6-5 in the bottom half on Blalock's solo homer and Ian Kinsler's run-scoring double. They tied it at 6 on Young's solo shot in the fifth.

With the Angels trailing 3-0 in the third, Guerrero was hit on the left arm by Padilla's fastball. He stole second and scored on Garret Anderson's single. Howie Kendrick's RBI double cut it to 3-2.

The Angels tied it at 3 in the fourth on Izturis' RBI single.

Padilla threw another inside pitch that just missed Guerrero in the fourth, and both dugouts were warned by plate umpire Hunter Wendelstedt.

After the warning, Guerrero swung hard and missed at two pitches, then fouled off another. He didn't miss again, hitting his 27th homer.

Padilla retired Anderson on a fly ball but was ejected by Wendelstedt when he hit Rivera with a fastball. It was the 14th batter Padilla has plunked this season, tying him with Javier Vazquez of the Chicago White Sox for the AL lead.

Showalter, who was automatically ejected because the dugouts had been warned, said Padilla was simply throwing inside.

"One of the reasons [Padilla] has been successful is by pitching inside," Showalter said. "He's going to continue to do that."

Padilla, who has won six of his last eight decisions, does not speak to reporters.

"Anytime Padilla's on the mound, we feel we have a chance to win," Young said. "When he gets thrown out, you're facing an uphill battle."

Guerrero and Rivera refused to comment.

Texas took a 3-0 lead in the second against Ervin Santana on a three-run homer by Stairs -- his first hit since Kansas City traded him to the Rangers on July 31.

Santana gave up six runs and seven hits in five innings.

Game notes
Scioscia yelled at Wendelstedt in the eighth when Littleton threw high and inside to Guerrero. ... The Angels arrived at their hotel at 3 a.m. after losing to the Yankees in New York on Monday night. ... Jose Molina of the Angels extended his career-best hitting streak to 12 games with a second-inning double. ... Guerrero has hit safely in 23 straight road games against the Rangers."

"Showalter, who was automatically ejected because the dugouts had been warned, said Padilla was simply throwing inside."


No,this is simply a huge shovel of poo.Some guys crowd the plate,and yes they can get hit on the upper wrist by a pitch inside.This happened a couple weeks ago to Payton when he got hit by an inside pitch from Shields.Part of the reason Payton couldn't get his hands out of the way is because he was fooled,and swung at the pitch.Hard to get out of the way while swinging at the pitch.Now,as far as Showalter's 2 guys that threw at VLade on Tuesday night goes,he was well off the plate,but still got hit hard by a fastball thrown right at his upper wrist by Padilla.Padilla also threw at Vlade's head.Littleton threw very hard at Vlade's head.Just way too close to call IT SIMPLY "throwing inside." What about when Guerrero hit the 3 run homer,and Padilla got upset about it,and threw one right on Rivera's a$$?? Padilla just pitching inside? THAT'S ALL YOU CALL THAT BUCK? F'N PIG LIAR. I really don't know how these fkrs didn't break a bone in Vlades upper wrist/lower forearm.Hit him flush as can be on a bone. That's what is really pathetic.Fans pay all this money out to see top talent,and this guy is lucky to not be out for the year with a broken bone.

Showalter is plainly a P.O.S. I understand throwing inside is part of the game and even occasionally hitting a batter too, but like you said Scuds...not at a guys head for God's sake....that is absolute bullsh*t to the nth degree, but honestly...coming from Showalter, I expect nothing that resembles class.

A's look mighty tough right now. Going, going they're gone. When Haren pitches like that, forget about it. That team is good.

I was commenting on last nights game. Not saying anything was right or wrong, but men do sometimes act childish. It was a childish series.

THANKS SCUDS FOR SETTING ME STRAIGHT BY THE WAY. I MUST GET MY F'NKING SHT RIGHT BEFORE I SPEAK.

lol. you go, girl.

O.K., Woman.Let me see what you would do if you were the Halos,and they damn near broke Guerrero's wrist/forearm,and on 2 other pitches they were barely missing hitting him in the head/face with 95 mph fastballs. When Guerrero hit a 3 run homer,they then beemed Rivera in the rump(square contact=flush.)Littleton came ultra close (in the 9th) to breaking Vlade's jaw with a pitch that was rising at such an extreme angle that it probably flew by the front of the batters box at his chest level,and went by him at eye level.That's right.An f'n diagonal that probably would of hit him just under his jaw,and bashed into the side of the man's neck.You say men are acting childish? From a female's point of view,tell me what you would do if you were the Angels.They did nothing to the Rangers' batters on Tuesday,and the Halos did nothing to the Rangers' batters on August 6th (when Eaton threw behind Rivera after giving up a home run to Anderson.) Are you saying to do nothing,and have them throw at Vlade's head again(when he gets a nice hit.)See,these 2 teams have about 7 games left to play between now and October.Vlade has gotten hits off the Rangers in about 50 straight games against them.This is a performance based industry here.If they had broke Vlade's wrist,or forearm,then don't you think the Rangers have a lot better chance to win those 7 games in September against the Halos? You better believe it.Showalter isn't secure in that job.He ain't making the post with that team.His job status may be determined by how many of those games he can win in September against the Halos.Remember that the Halos have been beating this team the last 2 years in late September games.Believe me,If they had forced Vlade out with a broken bone,then Showalter would have been doing his own personal celebration dance in his private office(and feeling much better about the September games between these 2 teams.)The only way to protect Vlade is to let the Rangers know that their batters are no longer gunna go unhit while their pitchers throw at Vlade's head.Now,since men act childish,please let the female tell us how to protect the Halo's best hitter from getting thrown at by this team.That I want to know. Obviously the Halos thought they had only one option.You call it Childish. What is your option?

Ever heard of take the high road? "well he did it first!!!" I understand what you are saying and I get why they did what they did. I made a sarcastic statement about last nights game. A fight was coming because they were being childish. Not saying that women can't get into fights, but BOTH teams were acting childish. If the Rangers jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, are the Halos gonna follow?

That was all I was saying Scuds. Sometimes ya gotta be the bigger man and walk away. From what I can remember off the top of my head, the Halos were winning that game. Isn't that revenge enough? Kicking their azz in baseball isn't enough? They literally have to kick thier azz to be happy?

put a fork in the halos....... there done. they have been since troy glaus left............ hey mr. stonehead, vlad needs protection you fuc&ing idiot.

Fact is the Rangers stated this mess and carried it from week to week! The Angels had to stand up to it. These teams play 7 more times this year...recipe for disaster....unless commish makes Showalter an offer he can't refuse!

7 meaningless games. Neither team has a shot at the wildcard and judging from the way the A's have been playing, I do believe we have our safest guarntee of a team in the AL who will be playing in the postseason.

Gander,I don't think I have ever seen a more confident team than the A's are right now.Zito has been a little bit off,but not nearly enough to make them vulnerable.I think an injury to one of their hot offensive players could possibly bring them back to earth,but their pitching could probably survive an injury or 2(deep pitching.)Scudaro,Ellis,and Kielty are offensive threats now,and that is unexpected. Swisher =their M.V.P. right now.Just rakin it on both offense and defense.A very good player right now.In 90% of these wins they are having right now,the W is never in question...machine.I have seen almost all their games in the 2nd half,and right now they are gunna be tough for anybody to beat in a series.Every hit they give up must be an obvious hit.They will give up nothing that isn't earned.

The above does nothing at all to protect the Halo hitters from being thrown at intentionally.If you simply walk away from what the Rangers did,then they will keep throwing at his head.

They need to complain to the "ones in charge". I am not trying to argue or be mean Scuds. Just saying that stooping to the Rangers level is not the way to go.

See part of the problem is that when Littleton threw at Vlade's head in the 9th inning of Tuesday's game,the ump didn't throw him out of the game (to atleast get some fine or something.) Scioscia was all over the ump for that.So,the ones in charge basically ignored the 3rd throw at his head,and that was probably the last straw right there.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2553034

Here are the fines,and suspensions.If MLB had given out these to the Rangers before Wednesday's game,then I doubt any of the stuff would have happened in the game Wednesday Night.So,were they gunna even suspend/fine the Rangers(for Tuesday night) if the Halos didn't retaliate Wednesday night? I doubt it.