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joeydb 11-17-2009 06:35 AM

Poll: Job Status
 
Poll: Was your job created or saved, or neither?

somerfrost 11-17-2009 09:29 AM

Over-simplistic answers....I am retired but care very much about our economy, obviously political which renders it useless.

Coach Pants 11-17-2009 09:31 AM

Give Rodney a chance!

randallscott35 11-17-2009 09:32 AM

Coach works full time here in Derby Trail with his pictures.:D

Coach Pants 11-17-2009 09:39 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYW6C44zo24

randallscott35 11-17-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Have to remind myself not to click on your links when I'm at work. Thanks

Nascar1966 11-17-2009 10:58 AM

Someone help me out here. Didn't O'Dumbass say that this package would create more jobs? Maybe O'Dumbass can explain to the country why unemployment is still going up. Maybe he could just say it was another one of his lies that he has told the American public and the public believed him again. Reminds me of his garbage he was talking on the election trail that was believed by the American public. Umemployment has gone up in a lesser period of time than it did in Bush's last year. Cant wait for 2012 to get here. Be funny if O'Dumbass isnt the Dems choice for President.

joeydb 11-18-2009 06:57 AM

If anybody's job was "saved" how do you know it was and who "saved" it?

dalakhani 11-18-2009 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
If anybody's job was "saved" how do you know it was and who "saved" it?

It is an impossible claim to support. Depending on what side of the table that you are sitting, it is either brilliant or deceitful. I tend to be of the mindset that it is a little of both.

There is no doubt that many jobs have been "saved" by the stimulus. Trying to put a number on that claim is absurd.

joeydb 11-18-2009 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
It is an impossible claim to support. Depending on what side of the table that you are sitting, it is either brilliant or deceitful. I tend to be of the mindset that it is a little of both.

There is no doubt that many jobs have been "saved" by the stimulus. Trying to put a number on that claim is absurd.

Interesting... on this thread you are claiming that there is no doubt "many" jobs have been saved, yet there is no data. Deja vu.

dalakhani 11-18-2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
Interesting... on this thread you are claiming that there is no doubt "many" jobs have been saved, yet there is no data. Deja vu.

i have made a claim on here but no where else. Many jobs have been "saved" but you cant try to put a number on it. OF course, in bucks county, you wouldnt know anything about that.;)

Cannon Shell 11-18-2009 10:35 AM

Jobs saved = intellectual dishonesty

brianwspencer 11-18-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Jobs saved = intellectual dishonesty

It is necessary to note, as much as you don't like it, that the Obama administration is not the first to use the "jobs saved" argument.

That said, it's a bullsh*t argument, and I'm touched to see you actually calling a case of intellectual dishonesty what it is.

dalakhani 11-18-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Jobs saved = intellectual dishonesty

I agree to an extent. Saying you saved jobs would be honest. Trying to put a number on how many isn't. One could easily make up a number about jobs COSTED. No?

Cannon Shell 11-18-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
It is necessary to note, as much as you don't like it, that the Obama administration is not the first to use the "jobs saved" argument.
That said, it's a bullsh*t argument, and I'm touched to see you actually calling a case of intellectual dishonesty what it is.

It isnt?

Cannon Shell 11-18-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I agree to an extent. Saying you saved jobs would be honest. Trying to put a number on how many isn't. One could easily make up a number about jobs COSTED. No?

Jobs saved is not possible to establish nor is a counter to any posted number of jobs saved available therefore it is intellectually dishonest. Or in plainer terms, propaganda.

miraja2 11-18-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It isnt?

June 24, 2004, remarks by then-Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman:

"Our Rural Development programs also help communities with infrastructure such as electricity, water and telecommunications and with economic development assistance. We have estimated that our rural development programs have saved or created more than 500,000 jobs just since the Bush Administration took office in January of 2001. Recently we have seen more positive numbers showing that the U.S. economy created nearly a quarter of a million jobs last month alone for a total of 1 million jobs created in the last three months and about 1.5 million jobs in the past nine months."

In my opinion, attempting to count the number of jobs "saved" - regardless of which administration attempts to do it - is a pretty pointless and impossible task.

Cannon Shell 11-18-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
June 24, 2004, remarks by then-Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman:

"Our Rural Development programs also help communities with infrastructure such as electricity, water and telecommunications and with economic development assistance. We have estimated that our rural development programs have saved or created more than 500,000 jobs just since the Bush Administration took office in January of 2001. Recently we have seen more positive numbers showing that the U.S. economy created nearly a quarter of a million jobs last month alone for a total of 1 million jobs created in the last three months and about 1.5 million jobs in the past nine months."

In my opinion, attempting to count the number of jobs "saved" - regardless of which administration attempts to do it - is a pretty pointless and impossible task.

What do ya expect from a cowgirl?

joeydb 11-23-2009 01:52 PM

Looks like most of us are just working and paying for the stimulus. Big surprise.:rolleyes:

alysheba4 11-23-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Someone help me out here. Didn't O'Dumbass say that this package would create more jobs? Maybe O'Dumbass can explain to the country why unemployment is still going up. Maybe he could just say it was another one of his lies that he has told the American public and the public believed him again. Reminds me of his garbage he was talking on the election trail that was believed by the American public. Umemployment has gone up in a lesser period of time than it did in Bush's last year. Cant wait for 2012 to get here. Be funny if O'Dumbass isnt the Dems choice for President.

....you think he cares......name one thing he has said that isnt complete B.S. his only goal is a socialistic america......and he is relentless, he doesnt care what the majority wants....he will crush anyone in his path.


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