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robfla 10-29-2009 10:25 AM

What Jockey do you think will have the most BC wins??
 
http://www.drf.com/news/article/108491.html


Breeders' Cup plans to offer a parimutuel bet on which jockey has the most wins in the 14 Breeders' Cup races, scheduled for Nov. 6-7 at Santa Anita Park, the organization announced on Thursday.

Though the field for the wager has yet to be set, the bet will likely have 14 wagering interests, according to Ken Kirchner, the simulcasting consultant for Breeders' Cup. The 14th betting interest will be a field comprising all jockeys that are not named individually, and ties will be treated as a dead heat, Kirchner said. Wagering will open on Nov. 5, after riders have been named.

This is the first time Breeders' Cup has offered a bet on jockeys, though the organization has offered other proposition-type bets in the past, with limited success.

"We think it's important to be able to come up with these types of products to stay competitive," Kirchner said. "The marketplace is going to allow us to move more in this direction in the future."

Also on Thursday, Breeders' Cup announced its official race order, post times for the 14 races, and the wagering menu.

The Friday card will start at 11:15 a.m. Pacific with two allowance races. The first Breeders' Cup race, the Marathon, will go off at 12:35 p.m., and will be followed by the Juvenile Fillies Turf (1:08), the Juvenile Fillies (1:45), the Filly and Mare Turf (2:23), the Filly and Mare Sprint (3:02), and the Ladies' Classic (3:45).

On Saturday, the first Breeders' Cup race, the Juvenile Turf, will go off at 10:45 a.m., followed by the Turf Sprint (11:23), the Sprint (12:10), the Juvenile (12:49), the Mile (1:28), the Dirt Mile (2:12), the Turf (2:57), and the Classic (3:45).

A pick six on the Saturday card will link the Sprint to the Classic and carry a $2 million guarantee, according to Breeders' Cup. A pick six on the Friday card will link the Marathon to the Ladies' Classic and carry a $500,000 purse. If no one correctly selects all six winners on Friday, then 75 percent of the net pool will carry over to Saturday's pick six. Saturday's pick six must be paid out and will not carry over.

A pick four on the Friday card linking the Juvenile Fillies to the Ladies' Classic will have a $500,000 guarantee. An early pick four on Saturday linking the first four Breeders' Cup races on the card, the Juvenile Turf to the Juvenile, will have a $1 million guarantee, and a late pick four linking the Mile to the Classic will have a $1.5 million guarantee.

Breeders' Cup is also offering a super high five on the Ladies' Classic and the Classic. A super high five requires bettors to pick the first five finishers in order. A daily double will also link the Ladies' Classic and the Classic for the first time.

Win, place, show, exacta, trifecta, and superfectas will be offered on all races, along with rolling daily doubles and rolling pick threes. Takeout will be 15.43 percent on all win, place, and show bets, and 20.68 percent on all other wagers.

randallscott35 10-29-2009 10:26 AM

I like it

NTamm1215 10-29-2009 10:32 AM

Just to put it in perspective, this was the tally last year:

Gomez 4
Smith 2
Dettori 2
Lezcano
Leparoux
Migliore
Smullen
Peslier
Moore

You'd have to imagine Gomez will be a heavy favorite.

NT

cakes44 10-29-2009 10:38 AM

Gomez is almost always going to have monster BC weekends because of his ability to finish. That ability shows up even more on synthetics.

Cannon Shell 10-29-2009 12:05 PM

Jose Espinoza

pweizer 10-29-2009 12:28 PM

Can we bet Miguel Mena to lead Keeneland in wins tomorrow instead?

Paul

randallscott35 10-29-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Jose Espinoza

I'll take some of that

randallscott35 10-29-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweizer
Can we bet Miguel Mena to lead Keeneland in wins tomorrow instead?

Paul

You can bet Mena to win a drinking game after the races.

-BT- 10-29-2009 02:07 PM

LA Frank De Torri

-bt-

Gander 10-29-2009 02:29 PM

Ramon Dominguez.

NTamm1215 10-29-2009 02:32 PM

None of these might not win multiple races or the most but I wouldn't be surprised to see Rosario, Baze, or Maragh pick up their first BC wins.

I'm thinking Leparoux will have a very big two days as well and might put some money on him.

NT

DogsUp 10-29-2009 04:33 PM

I am going with Scott Stevens

Cannon Shell 10-29-2009 04:40 PM

Gene Stevens

RockHardTen1985 10-29-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Gene Stevens

Gomez has to be the chalk here... Both of his Juvy mounts for Baffert look really really strong. Furthest Land "who I really dislike" is a Synthetic freak and hes going to be really tough. Gayego is the next horse behind Zensational. I think Cowboy Cal has a big shot.

Cannon Shell 10-29-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Gomez has to be the chalk here... Both of his Juvy mounts for Baffert look really really strong. Furthest Land "who I really dislike" is a Synthetic freak and hes going to be really tough. Gayego is the next horse behind Zensational. I think Cowboy Cal has a big shot.

Gene Stevens is riding many of the Euro shippers.

mclem0822 10-29-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
None of these might not win multiple races or the most but I wouldn't be surprised to see Rosario, Baze, or Maragh pick up their first BC wins.

I'm thinking Leparoux will have a very big two days as well and might put some money on him.

NT

Besides Go Go, that was the first name that popped in my head. Of course Dettori makes sense as well.

RockHardTen1985 10-29-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822
Besides Go Go, that was the first name that popped in my head. Of course Dettori makes sense as well.


Hes on Einstein, Forever Together, Informed Decision... Who else that has any chance? Is he keeping the mount on Rainbow View?

philcski 10-29-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Gene Stevens

Gene Simmons

LARHAGE 10-29-2009 05:43 PM

So far Gomez is on Colonel John, Gayego, Lookin at Lucky, Always a Princess, Ventura, Pure Clan, Life is Sweet, Codoy, Midshipman, Telling, Delta Storm and Courageous Cat.

What other jock is even remotely as loaded as him?

RockHardTen1985 10-29-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LARHAGE
So far Gomez is on Colonel John, Gayego, Lookin at Lucky, Always a Princess, Ventura, Pure Clan, Life is Sweet, Codoy, Midshipman, Telling, Delta Storm and Courageous Cat.

What other jock is even remotely as loaded as him?

Lookin at Lucky is a lock.
Always a Princess is the horse to beat, same with Ventura.
Life is Sweet has giant shot with Z going to classic.
Midshipman has big shot.
Courageous Cat might be my crazy bomb of the weekend.


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