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zippyneedsawin 08-15-2006 11:06 AM

Chace City
 
Been waiting for his return since his last race (Bashford Manor, where Circualr Quay won) when tried to jump a fence out of the gate and still finished well. He's entered in the Saratoga Special on Thusday. 5/2 second choice behind the Pletcher horse. CC will likely get my support! Any thoughts on this race?


1 Teuflesberg (L) 118 Bejarano, R Logsdon, G Sanders, J 3-1
1a Fast N Ready (L) 118 Leparoux, J Logsdon, G Sanders, J 3-1
2 Shermanesque (L) 118 Castellano, J Willmott Stables, Inc., Reinstedler, A 4-1
3 Actin Good (L) 118 Velasquez, C Dibona, R Dibona, B 15-1
4 Cash Rich (L) 118 Rose, J Park Avenue Racing Stable, Dutrow, A 12-1
5 Chace City (L) 122 Prado, E Gold Square, Blasi, S 5-2
6 King of the Roxy (L) 118 Velazquez, J Team Valor Stables LLC, Pletcher, T 2-1

eurobounce 08-15-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
Been waiting for his return since his last race (Bashford Manor, where Circualr Quay won) when tried to jump a fence out of the gate and still finished well. He's entered in the Saratoga Special on Thusday. 5/2 second choice behind the Pletcher horse. CC will likely get my support! Any thoughts on this race?


1 Teuflesberg (L) 118 Bejarano, R Logsdon, G Sanders, J 3-1
1a Fast N Ready (L) 118 Leparoux, J Logsdon, G Sanders, J 3-1
2 Shermanesque (L) 118 Castellano, J Willmott Stables, Inc., Reinstedler, A 4-1
3 Actin Good (L) 118 Velasquez, C Dibona, R Dibona, B 15-1
4 Cash Rich (L) 118 Rose, J Park Avenue Racing Stable, Dutrow, A 12-1
5 Chace City (L) 122 Prado, E Gold Square, Blasi, S 5-2
6 King of the Roxy (L) 118 Velazquez, J Team Valor Stables LLC, Pletcher, T 2-1

LOVE CHACE CITY. Chace City was the best horse in the Bashford Manor. If I get 5/2 on this horse I will be one happy man. I know I said I wouldnt bet until Oct 7th, but at 5/2 I wouldnt be able to pass this guy up.

zippyneedsawin 08-15-2006 10:28 PM

Oracle, has your clocker seen Chace City workout?? If so, does he have an opinion on him??

Cajungator26 08-16-2006 11:42 AM

Chace City is much the best in this field IMO.

eurobounce 08-17-2006 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Chace City is much the best in this field IMO.

Oh my--2-1 was still a nice price in my opinion. I pretty much loaded up on this horse today. I think the horse would have taken the Bashford Manor in his last race. He is going to be a horse to be reckoned with. $6.30 for the win. A nice nice late afternoon for me.

DiscreetCat=Monster 08-17-2006 06:20 PM

They always run faster when they don't run into or try and jump the rail:D

zippyneedsawin 08-17-2006 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Oh my--2-1 was still a nice price in my opinion. I pretty much loaded up on this horse today. I think the horse would have taken the Bashford Manor in his last race. He is going to be a horse to be reckoned with. $6.30 for the win. A nice nice late afternoon for me.

Sweet! Loved it when he was sitting at 4-1, but I'll take 2-1 for the win! :cool:

Gander 08-17-2006 07:19 PM

Euro- What does loaded up mean?
He was ultra impressive today. Nice win as right and very glad I stayed away from this card today. The 3 horses I liked as win bets all ran 3rd.

eurobounce 08-17-2006 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
Sweet! Loved it when he was sitting at 4-1, but I'll take 2-1 for the win! :cool:

Zippy, I was salavating when he was sitting at 4-1. At that moment I figured the smart money hasnt been wagered yet. Then he dipped to a tad over 2-1 and that is where I thought he would go. But 2-1 was still a gift on this horse.

eurobounce 08-17-2006 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Euro- What does loaded up mean?
He was ultra impressive today. Nice win as right and very glad I stayed away from this card today. The 3 horses I liked as win bets all ran 3rd.

Well my standard bet is $100 across the board. This time I went with a straight $500 win bet on Chace City. So a nice tidy$1000 profit.

The_Guy_Smiley 08-18-2006 09:17 AM

THE CHART: Saratoga Special - Grade 2

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...SAR0817080.pdf

Gander 08-18-2006 09:22 AM

Wow, thats a nice hit Euro. It was pretty cool how Chace City spurted away and held off The Roxy King. Nice effort and well ridden by Prado.

eurobounce 08-18-2006 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Wow, thats a nice hit Euro. It was pretty cool how Chace City spurted away and held off The Roxy King. Nice effort and well ridden by Prado.

Yeah, that is a little ballsy bet for me. But I just felt that horse was best in the Bashford Manor and this field was much weaker and plus he didnt have to jump the rail. So I thought a win bet would be the way to go.

zippyneedsawin 08-18-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Yeah, that is a little ballsy bet for me. But I just felt that horse was best in the Bashford Manor and this field was much weaker and plus he didnt have to jump the rail. So I thought a win bet would be the way to go.


So that's why the his odds went down so much!! lol. I had much less to win on him, but was happy with the results too. I was disappointed with his place payout. Somebody must have crushed that at the last minute, I thought it would pay at least $4(based on the pools with about 3 mins to post), instead it paid $3.20, with the show bet paying $3.10!!

eurobounce 08-18-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
So that's why the his odds went down so much!! lol. I had much less to win on him, but was happy with the results too. I was disappointed with his place payout. Somebody must have crushed that at the last minute, I thought it would pay at least $4(based on the pools with about 3 mins to post), instead it paid $3.20, with the show bet paying $3.10!!

You know, this was one of the factors that played into me playing a win bet. I figured that there would be large sums of money bet on him to place and show. I thought the win bet, in this case, was the way to go. But heck, the show bet was more logical than the place bet in this case.

zippyneedsawin 08-18-2006 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
You know, this was one of the factors that played into me playing a win bet. I figured that there would be large sums of money bet on him to place and show. I thought the win bet, in this case, was the way to go. But heck, the show bet was more logical than the place bet in this case.


Yeah, I should have had more $$ on him to win, but squandered some singling CC in the P-4 and Grand Slam(which I didn't hit or I wouldn't call it 'squandering!!). Sigh.. I know better, but still couldn't help myself. In general, I play mainly WIN bets these days with occasional P-3's & 4's and grand slams. By the way, that grand slam payout was pretty nice: $121.50 for $2!! Pretty good for a horse that paid $6.30 at the end.

Gander 08-18-2006 10:20 AM

Not sure why you would expect this horse to pay more than he did to place. It was a tiny field and there were 5 betting interests and 4 of them were at 5/2 or 2/1. The lone horse nobody was betting didnt rrun 1st or 2nd, so why would you expect $4 to place?

Great race to load up on the win if you had a strong opinion, but terrible race to bet to place.

zippyneedsawin 08-18-2006 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Not sure why you would expect this horse to pay more than he did to place. It was a tiny field and there were 5 betting interests and 4 of them were at 5/2 or 2/1. The lone horse nobody was betting didnt rrun 1st or 2nd, so why would you expect $4 to place?

Great race to load up on the win if you had a strong opinion, but terrible race to bet to place.


Because with 3 minutes to post the #1(entry), #2, #5 & #6 ALL had about 10K to place on them out of a pool of 48K.. generally that translates into a place payout of $4 or so. CC must have taken A LOT of money in the place pool late for his payout to be much lower.. Look at King of the Roxy, he paid $4.30 to place!! and he was 5/2 at posttime. CC was a tepid 2-1 favorite, yet he was pounded in the place pool at the end for a $3.20 payout. Either way, the place bet turned out to be the poorest value wager on CC .

Bold Brooklynite 08-18-2006 11:33 AM

A very unimpressive renewal of the Saratoga Special.

Let's hope there are better 2YO colts out there than these kids ... a LOT better.

eurobounce 08-18-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
A very unimpressive renewal of the Saratoga Special.

Let's hope there are better 2YO colts out there than these kids ... a LOT better.

I thought it was a good performance by Chace City. The time was ok and there is room for improvement. At least the $120k will be enough to get him into the Derby.


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