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Kasept 10-22-2009 02:00 PM

10/24-25 (BEL): NY Bred Showcase Day
 
6th (3:34) Maid of the Mist S.

1 Mile | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Future Footnotes Gomez O 116 L
2 Mineralogist Desormeaux K J 122 L
3 Porkchop Sandra Castellano J J 114 L
4 Valuable Lady Luzzi M J 116 L
5 Stellaluce Dominguez R A 116 L
6 Sugar Trade Maragh R 116 L
7 Raffie's Rose Castro E 116 L
8 Spirit of Rose Velasquez C 116 L
9 Embrace Change Lezcano J 114 L



7th (4:06) Sleepy Hollow S.

1 Mile | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

2 Power Blast Dominguez R A 115 L
3 Come From Behind Desormeaux K J 115 L
4 Fenway Faithful Rose J 115 L
5 City Trooper Castellano J J 115 L
6 Persian Ruler Luzzi M J 115 L
1 Strategic Move Lezcano J 115 L
1A Mineswept Maragh R 113 L
7 Make Note Prado E S 122 L
8 Silenced Velazquez J R 115 L
9 Magic Tiger Castro E 115 L
10 Ibboyee Velasquez C 122 L

A-Coupled: Strategic Move and Mineswept



8th (4:37) Iroquois S.

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Raffie's Treasure Maragh R 117 L
2 My Dinah Espinoza J L 121 L
3 Doremifasollatido Lezcano J 115 Blk-On L
4 Gold for the Queen Castro E 122 L
5 What a Pear Casey A J 119 L
6 Sweet Lorena Desormeaux K J 119 L
7 R Betty Graybull Marquez C H Jr 115 L
8 Under Serviced Velazquez J R 119 L
9 Sapphire Sky Prado E S 122 L
10 Rightly So Dominguez R A 115 L
11 Silvercup Baby Castellano J J 124 L
12 Afleet Alexandra Luzzi M J 119 L
13 Mother Russia Velasquez C 122 L



9th (5:09) Hudson S.

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Driven by Success Dominguez R A 117 L
2 Smokin Hero Lezcano J 121 L
3 Mr. Windjammer Castro E 121 L
4 Legal Consent Velazquez J R 122 L
5 Goodandacceptable Carr D 115
6 Too Tough Pete Luzzi M J 119 L
7 Citifest Morales S 117 L
8 Lookin At Her Velasquez C 115 L
9 Be Bullish Castellano J J 121 L
10 Dr. W Prado E S 119 Blk-Off L
11 Law Enforcement Desormeaux K J 124 L



10th (5:40) Empire Classic S.

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Dr. D. F. C. Castro E 118 L
2 Slevin Castellano J J 115 L
3 Undocumented Studart M 120 L
4 Weathered Luzzi M J 121 L
5 Haynesfield Dominguez R A 121 L
6 Future Prospect Maragh R 124 L
7 Typhoon Tycoon Fuentes R D 118 L
8 Platinum Couple Chang T 118 Blk-On L
9 Dr. V's Magic Velasquez C 122 L
10 Ruffino Velazquez J R 118 L
11 Naughty New Yorker Prado E S 120 L
12 Love Abroad Lezcano J 118 L



SUNDAY 7th (4:06) Ticonderoga S.

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Our Golden Dream Castellano J J 118 L
2 Chestoria Maragh R 121 L
3 Borrowing Base Bravo J 117 L
4 Nehantic Kat Dominguez R A 123 L
5 You Go West Girl Lezcano J 123 L
6 Yet Again Bocachica O 117 L
7 Love Cove Velasquez C 119 L
8 Acquired Cat Luzzi M J 117 L
9 Raffie's Treasure Samyn J L 117 L
10 Lovely Daniella Velazquez J R 117 L
11 Them There Eyes Espinoza J L 119 L
12 Remarkable Remy Prado E S 119 L
AE One in a Romp Castro E 117 L
AE Nedjma Maragh R 117 L
AE Vivi's Book Velazquez J R 117 L



SUNDAY 9th (5:09) Mohawk S.

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

2 Piazza Di Spagna Luzzi M J 117 L
3 Solvent Velasquez C 117
4 Pennington Maragh R 119 L
5 North Country Lezcano J 117 L
6 Tobruk Studart M 117 L
7 Prince Dubai Fuentes R D 117 L
8 Kutais Castro E 117 L
1 Hangingbyathread Dominguez R A 121 L
9 Uncle T Seven Velazquez J R 120 L
10 Banrock Castellano J J 123 L
11 Gimme Credit Prado E S 119 L
12 My Man Lars Garcia Alan 119 L
13 AE Bestowed Samyn J L 119 L
14 MTO Dantastic Maragh R 118 L
1A MTO Pegasian Prado E S 118 L
15 MTO Spa City Fever Chavez J F 115 L

A-Coupled: Hangingbyathread and Pegasian

randallscott35 10-22-2009 02:01 PM

Driven By Success carries 117, Law Enforcement 124 ???

NTamm1215 10-22-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Driven By Success carries 117, Law Enforcement 124 ???

Driven by Success hasn't won a race since February. Law Enforcement has two stakes wins. The 7 lb off the top weight for DbS comes because he is a non-winner of four races lifetime.

NT

randallscott35 10-22-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Driven by Success hasn't won a race since February. Law Enforcement has two stakes wins. The 7 lb off the top weight for DbS comes because he is a non-winner of four races lifetime.

NT

Yummy weight break.

NTamm1215 10-22-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Yummy weight break.

Basically the same one they had in the John Morrissey at Saratoga.

NT

Gander 10-22-2009 03:06 PM

Driven By Success was pushed too hard too soon. Its a shame. He had real talent and had he been handled differently, who knows? The sky could be the limit. Just look at some of the goats who have won grade 1's the last couple of years.

Him even running in this race is pretty much a disgrace and an insult to his true ability.

RockHardTen1985 10-22-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Driven By Success was pushed too hard too soon. Its a shame. He had real talent and had he been handled differently, who knows? The sky could be the limit. Just look at some of the goats who have won grade 1's the last couple of years.

Him even running in this race is pretty much a disgrace and an insult to his true ability.


Dude GET OFF HIM. HES NOT THAT GOOD AND NEVR WAS.

Gander 10-22-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Dude GET OFF HIM. HES NOT THAT GOOD AND NEVR WAS.

You dont know what you are talking about, or what I am for that matter. Trust me, at one time, this horse was very, very good. Had he been trained by someone different, he'd have grade ones. Instead he is running on NY Showcase day.

RockHardTen1985 10-22-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
You dont know what you are talking about, or what I am for that matter. Trust me, at one time, this horse was very, very good. Had he been trained by someone different, he'd have grade ones. Instead he is running on NY Showcase day.

I know what your talking about you have been crazy about this pig since before the Met Mile and even then I told you I thought he was not that good. Bet who you want, hype who you want but this horse is not that good. Once again this sets up like a dream for Law Enforcment. Because of the pace sceniro I think this race is all 4-11

jjf1031 10-22-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I know what your talking about you have been crazy about this pig since before the Met Mile and even then I told you I thought he was not that good. Bet who you want, hype who you want but this horse is not that good. Once again this sets up like a dream for Law Enforcment. Because of the pace sceniro I think this race is all 4-11

A multiple G1 placed "pig" who ran his eyeballs out to be beaten 2 lengths in the Carter. A "pig" who despite a foolish ride by Dominguez through a 43 second half at Toga still fought gamely to the wire to lose to a perfectly setup Law Enforcement. Think maybe you should be using other terms

RockHardTen1985 10-22-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
A multiple G1 placed "pig" who ran his eyeballs out to be beaten 2 lengths in the Carter. A "pig" who despite a foolish ride by Dominguez through a 43 second half at Toga still fought gamely to the wire to lose to a perfectly setup Law Enforcement. Think maybe you should be using other terms

Ok a horse who is over hyped and because of his style wont win unless THERE IS 0 EARLY SPEED IN THE RACE.

Gander 10-22-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
A multiple G1 placed "pig" who ran his eyeballs out to be beaten 2 lengths in the Carter. A "pig" who despite a foolish ride by Dominguez through a 43 second half at Toga still fought gamely to the wire to lose to a perfectly setup Law Enforcement. Think maybe you should be using other terms

:tro:
Thank you.

jjf1031 10-22-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Ok a horse who is over hyped and because of his style wont win unless THERE IS 0 EARLY SPEED IN THE RACE.

Not sure I agree with that either...Granted if he gets caught inside dueling or misses the break ala the Forego and is rushed up he might be in trouble. But he has shown that he can survive fast fractions and hold for a piece. Also have to factor in a probable wet track as well. And the other speed in there is coming from who? Dr W probably. Goodandacceptable? not sure either of those have a first gear like him. Maybe Smokin Hero?

Gander 10-22-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjf1031
Not sure I agree with that either...Granted if he gets caught inside dueling or misses the break ala the Forego and is rushed up he might be in trouble. But he has shown that he can survive fast fractions and hold for a piece. Also have to factor in a probable wet track as well. And the other speed in there is coming from who? Dr W probably. Goodandacceptable? not sure either of those have a first gear like him. Maybe Smokin Hero?

They dont, and he has to go, go, go breaking from the rail...and hes gone, gone, gone in here.

Problem is because of the class, you wont get anything good on a price.

RockHardTen1985 10-22-2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
They dont, and he has to go, go, go breaking from the rail...and hes gone, gone, gone in here.

Problem is because of the class, you wont get anything good on a price.

Gander if the other 3 speeds run... THERE IS NO CHANCE THIS HORSE WINS, HE HAS NO HEART. He dug in in the Met Mile, but was not close to the win. I cant see this horse winning and would love to meet you at Racino Saturday to watch this.

Gander 10-22-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Gander if the other 3 speeds run... THERE IS NO CHANCE THIS HORSE WINS, HE HAS NO HEART. He dug in in the Met Mile, but was not close to the win. I cant see this horse winning and would love to meet you at Racino Saturday to watch this.

Nope, I'm out until at the earliest BC Day.
If he runs the way he did in the Met Mile, he wont have to dig in much.
There are no Bribons in here. Not even close. I imagine he'll be 6/5 in here.
To be honest, I probably wont even watch a race until Nov 6th.

jjf1031 10-22-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Nope, I'm out until at the earliest BC Day.
If he runs the way he did in the Met Mile, he wont have to dig in much.
There are no Bribons in here. Not even close. I imagine he'll be 6/5 in here.
To be honest, I probably wont even watch a race until Nov 6th.

Exactly..no Bribons..no Smooth Airs...no Kodiak Kowboys or Fabulous Strikes...and the fact is if he "digs in" as was stated above that he certainly is gone. The rest of the speeds really should not make a difference

RockHardTen1985 10-22-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
Exactly..no Bribons..no Smooth Airs...no Kodiak Kowboys or Fabulous Strikes...and the fact is if he "digs in" as was stated above that he certainly is gone. The rest of the speeds really should not make a difference


LOL... I CANT WAIT TILL SATURDAY.

parsixfarms 10-22-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
You dont know what you are talking about, or what I am for that matter. Trust me, at one time, this horse was very, very good. Had he been trained by someone different, he'd have grade ones. Instead he is running on NY Showcase day.

Huh?

NTamm1215 10-22-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
Huh?

I know, I was a tad baffled by that remark as well, few trainers move horses up off of Levine, unless of course they run them exclusively at Saratoga.

NT


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