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Kasept 10-18-2009 07:02 AM

Weekend Stakes Beyers
 
WO-Pattison Canadian International S (G1): Champs Elysees (GB) 106
WO-E. P. Taylor S (G1): Lahaleeb (IRE) 103
WO-Nearctic S (G2): Field Commission 101

KEE-Queen Elizabeth II Challenge Cup S (G1): Hot Cha Cha 91
KEE-Perryville S (G3): El Brujo 89
KEE-Buffalo Trace Franklin County: Dubai Majesty 95
KEE-JPMorgan Chase Jessamine: House of Grace 80

CT-West Virginia Breeders' Classic: Russell Road 99

CRC-Florida Stallion My Dear Girl: Sweetlalabye 77
CRC-Florida Stallion In Reality: Jackson Bend 100
CRC-Spend a Buck H (G3): Mambo Meister 100
CRC-Calder Derby(G3): Sal the Barber 90
CRC-Calder Oaks: Chary 80

MED-Meadowlands Cup S (G2): Etched 104

booner 10-18-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
CRC-Florida Stallion In Reality: Jackson Bend 100

Was this his first time around 2 turns?

ateamstupid 10-18-2009 08:47 PM

Ouch. 91 for the QEII.

Bogey 10-18-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by booner
Was this his first time around 2 turns?

Yes

philcski 10-18-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Ouch. 91 for the QEII.

Not surprised- that field sucked other than Gozzip Girl, who didn't run a lick.

89 in the Perryville is equally disappointing.

tector 10-18-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by booner
Was this his first time around 2 turns?

You should see the race replay--his start was "Touch Gold in the Preakness" bad.

http://www.drf.com/replays/savedreplays.jsp?RACE=258

He's the 6 horse.

If you like to see a 2YO who can shrug off trouble, he's your man.

In all likelihood they are skipping Santa Anita, for the all too obvious reason.

But keep an eye out for him at GP.

chucklestheclown 10-19-2009 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Not surprised- that field sucked other than Gozzip Girl, who didn't run a lick.

89 in the Perryville is equally disappointing.

Didn't you just get "hitched?"

Bogey 10-19-2009 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tector
You should the race replay--his start was "Touch Gold in the Preakness" bad.

http://www.drf.com/replays/savedreplays.jsp?RACE=258

He's the 6 horse.

If you like to see a 2YO who can shrug off trouble, he's your man.

In all likelihood the are skipping Santa Anita, for the all too obvious reason.

But keep an eye out for him at GP.

Most likely Delta Jackpot 1st. Seems to be taking the Big Drama path.

philcski 10-19-2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Didn't you just get "hitched?"

Sure did!

We did make it to Keeneland yesterday after getting back late Saturday night. As much as I dislike polytrack, as far as on track experience goes, only Saratoga is better to me. They continue to make improvements over there, this season it's Disney World-style shuttle buses.

CSC 10-19-2009 08:51 AM

Is it just me but don't the Keeneland beyers look abit on the light side?

VOL JACK 10-19-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Is it just me but don't the Keeneland beyers look abit on the light side?

Just for the Stakes horses.
Those debuting are are putting up some nice Beyers.
Just this weekend we saw 3 nice firsters run off the screen.

American Lion: 93 (2nd start)
Connie and Michael: 95
Came East: 93 (40k Mdn Claimer)

booner 10-19-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tector
You should the race replay--his start was "Touch Gold in the Preakness" bad.

http://www.drf.com/replays/savedreplays.jsp?RACE=258

He's the 6 horse.

If you like to see a 2YO who can shrug off trouble, he's your man.

In all likelihood the are skipping Santa Anita, for the all too obvious reason.

But keep an eye out for him at GP.

I was thinking the same after Saturday's performance. Definately on my radar.

CSC 10-19-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Just for the Stakes horses.
Those debuting are are putting up some nice Beyers.
Just this weekend we saw 3 nice firsters run off the screen.

American Lion: 93
Connie and Michael: 95
Came East: 93 (40k Mdn Claimer)

Something's wrong better than El Brujo a back to back stks winner...thx for the info.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-21-2009 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tector
You should see the race replay--his start was "Touch Gold in the Preakness" bad.

http://www.drf.com/replays/savedreplays.jsp?RACE=258

He's the 6 horse.

If you like to see a 2YO who can shrug off trouble, he's your man.

In all likelihood they are skipping Santa Anita, for the all too obvious reason.

But keep an eye out for him at GP.


Real obscure looking pedigree - but his 2nd dam is the Iron New York Bred millionaire mare Lottsa Talc .

kgar311 10-21-2009 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Just for the Stakes horses.
Those debuting are are putting up some nice Beyers.
Just this weekend we saw 3 nice firsters run off the screen.

American Lion: 93 (2nd start)
Connie and Michael: 95
Came East: 93 (40k Mdn Claimer)

Absolutely unheard of, this 2yr old FILLY runs a Zenyatta like beyer and was being pointed to the BC JF before she even raced yet the odds maker makes her 12-1ml and pretends he has not heard the buzz about this horse.:zz: :wf .

Please PLEASE keep telling me im wrong to believe there was a conspiracy to dupe the betting public

cakes44 10-21-2009 08:53 AM

Where did you hear the BC talk about this horse?

NTamm1215 10-21-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Where did you hear the BC talk about this horse?

There was none before the actual race but this was included in the latest track report for Keeneland on DRF.

"Connie and Michael eyes Breeders' Cup

The flashy maiden win (and 93 Beyer Speed Figure) by the WinStar Farm colt American Lion here Sunday wasn't the only eye-catching performance by a 2-year-old last weekend at Keeneland. Connie and Michael, a first-time starter for trainer Ken McPeek, earned a 95 Beyer in leading throughout to win Saturday's eighth race by 7 3/4 lengths.

McPeek said Connie and Michael, by Roman Ruler, will be considered for the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, although whether she can make the 14-horse lineup without any graded earnings is questionable, he conceded. He said the BC Juvenile Fillies Turf also is a possibility.

"She's just so talented," he said.

McPeek added that Fist of Rage, a narrow winner of his career debut here Oct. 14, is under consideration for the BC Juvenile.

Also, McPeek has confirmed that Robby Albarado will have the mount back on Beautician when the filly runs Nov. 6 in the BC Juvenile Fillies. Albarado rode Beautician to win her career debut in June before Kent Desormeaux rode her in her next three races."

Of course, anyone who knows McPeaked would be certain that every 2YO in his barn is being pointed to the Breeders' Cup. If you listen to the interviews Battaglia does after races KmcP is the only one who always answers the question about going to the BC with "Oh, absolutely."

NT

VOL JACK 10-21-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
Absolutely unheard of, this 2yr old FILLY runs a Zenyatta like beyer and was being pointed to the BC JF before she even raced yet the odds maker makes her 12-1ml and pretends he has not heard the buzz about this horse.:zz: :wf .

Please PLEASE keep telling me im wrong to believe there was a conspiracy to dupe the betting public

When the Morning Line is way off on a "live horse", there is a ton of value to be had in playing blind p3's and p4's to that horse.
I thought this horse looked very live when I went over the PP's the day before the race. Mcpeeks guy was riding Kent D. They were 2 really nice Bullet works then a bunch of easy works leading up to the race.

NTamm1215 10-21-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
When the Morning Line is way off on a "live horse", there is a ton of value to be had in playing blind p3's and p4's to that horse.
I thought this horse looked very live when I went over the PP's the day before the race. Mcpeeks guy was riding Kent D. They were 2 really nice Bullet works then a bunch of easy works leading up to the race.

Please, don't even try and use simple logic. It was a putover of the worst kind. Battaglia needed to get out for the meet so he and McPeek conspired and ended up with a fat 5/2. Now the "voice" Battaglia was seen carrying bags of money to the local credit union with "Connie and Michael" written on the outside. They, of course, had Ben Huffman, Racing Secretary involved so that he would card this as Race 8, the 2nd leg of the Pick 4, leaving the poor, mis-guided public to assume the 12-1 morning line meant Connie and Michael was a goat. It was a disgrace and scourge against Keeneland and the entire sport.:rolleyes:

NT

kgar311 10-21-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Please, don't even try and use simple logic. It was a putover of the worst kind. Battaglia needed to get out for the meet so he and McPeek conspired and ended up with a fat 5/2. Now the "voice" Battaglia was seen carrying bags of money to the local credit union with "Connie and Michael" written on the outside. They, of course, had Ben Huffman, Racing Secretary involved so that he would card this as Race 8, the 2nd leg of the Pick 4, leaving the poor, mis-guided public to assume the 12-1 morning line meant Connie and Michael was a goat. It was a disgrace and scourge against Keeneland and the entire sport.:rolleyes:

NT

The only, ONLY
reason they got 5/2 on the horse was because of the 12-1 morning line. If she had been 5-1/11-2 like Steve suggested she would of went off 3/5. Money went elsewhere late because of info provided in the program(odds and works). 5/2 was HUGE for this horse.


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