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Kasept 10-08-2009 01:54 PM

10/10-11 (BEL): Jamaica, Frizette, Champagne (G1's); Jerome (G2)
 
4th (2:35) Jamaica H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Straight Story Castellano J J 117 L
2 Courageous Cat Dominguez R A 119 L
3 Grassy Velasquez C 114 L
4 Boots Ahead Marquez C H Jr 115 L
5 Chapin Beach Velazquez J R 113 L
6 Take the Points Prado E S 121 L
7 Mr Sandman (GB) Chavez J F 113



8th (4:43) Frizette S. (G1)

1 Mile | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Annie's Melody Marquez C H Jr 120 L
2 Devil May Care Velazquez J R 120 L
3 Nonna Mia Dominguez R A 120 L
4 Awesome Maria Velasquez C 120 L
5 Touching Beauty Prado E S 120 L
6 Franny Freud Hill C 120 L
7 Worship the Moon Castellano J J 120 L



9th (5:15) Champagne S. (G1)


1 Mile | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Super Saver Velazquez J R 122 L
2 Overlap Espinoza J L 122 L
3 Aspire Castellano J J 122 L
4 Discreetly Mine Velasquez C 122 L
5 Dublin Dominguez R A 122 L
6 Homeboykris Prado E S 122 L

randallscott35 10-08-2009 02:06 PM

I miss the days of City Zip and AP Valentine.

Cannon Shell 10-08-2009 03:52 PM

https://secure.keeneland.com/sales/sep09/pdfs/1049.pdf

Sightseek 10-09-2009 01:40 PM

10/11 (BEL): Jerome H. (G2)
 
4th (2:35) Jerome H. (G2)

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Denver Velasquez C 115 L
2 Burley's Gold Dominguez R A 114 L
3 Girolamo Garcia Alan 118 L
4 Kensei Prado E S 121 L
5 Pitched Perfectly Lezcano J 114 L



5 horses?!

SniperSB23 10-09-2009 01:57 PM

Seems pretty dumb for Vineyard Haven to not be here.

ateamstupid 10-09-2009 02:00 PM

Five horses or not it's got a few runners.

RockHardTen1985 10-09-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
4th (2:35) Jerome H. (G2)

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Denver Velasquez C 115 L
2 Burley's Gold Dominguez R A 114 L
3 Girolamo Garcia Alan 118 L
4 Kensei Prado E S 121 L
5 Pitched Perfectly Lezcano J 114 L



5 horses?!


3 of them can RUN....
1 of them might be a FREAK....

The Indomitable DrugS 10-09-2009 04:39 PM

a freak on the basis of what?

A couple of visually impressive but soft trip wins over moderate competition?

MisterB 10-09-2009 04:52 PM

D Wayne is now 87, these horses take it out of you:(

RockHardTen1985 10-09-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
a freak on the basis of what?

A couple of visually impressive but soft trip wins over moderate competition?

I said might be... Im impressed with him... Kensei has done some nice things, I will wait till after Sunday to form a real opinion on him... I think the potential is there.

Cannon Shell 10-10-2009 04:28 PM

Prado punked Castellano in Champagne.

freddymo 10-10-2009 04:44 PM

All three of those from the Champagne look ok

RockHardTen1985 10-10-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo
All three of those from the Champagne look ok

I thought they staggggggered home. Aspire was best, but how long does he want to go?

King Glorious 10-10-2009 04:57 PM

Why is it that on message boards, the horse that was best only wins about 10% of the time? The winner was best.

RockHardTen1985 10-10-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
Why is it that on message boards, the horse that was best only wins about 10% of the time? The winner was best.

The winner was not best, but you can tell yourself that.

King Glorious 10-10-2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
The winner was not best, but you can tell yourself that.

Of course not. If winners were ever best, there wouldn't be anything for all of us that bet losers to ever complain about. As I said, on message boards, the best horse only wins about 10% of the time.

RockHardTen1985 10-10-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
Of course not. If winners were ever best, there wouldn't be anything for all of us that bet losers to ever complain about. As I said, on message boards, the best horse only wins about 10% of the time.


I was knocked out of the pick 4 leg 1, only bet Keeneland after, NO ACTION AT ALL.... I say Aspire was the best, maybe someone else will offer an opinion.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-10-2009 05:10 PM

In a lot of cases .. it's the narrow, life and death winner, who's light years best ... like RA in the Preakness or Woodward.

And in other cases - it's horses getting beat 20 and 35 like MP and Flashing who were way better than the result because of the way the race unfolded.

In other cases - horses like SB wears down QR at 10fs but isn't really better overall because QR is a miler.

I don't think knowing how to analyze a race has anything to do with who people bet.

CSC 10-11-2009 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Prado punked Castellano in Champagne.

I bet Straight Story yesterday and he got punked by Prado there also.

RockHardTen1985 10-11-2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
a freak on the basis of what?

A couple of visually impressive but soft trip wins over moderate competition?


I think I was right about Giralomo..... Hes a stud, he broke slow and still did that, Kensei is accomplished and this was REALLY STRONG IMO. He just blew him away. I know the track is playing fast but Kensei had the better trip and had nothing for Giralomo and the time was strong as well.


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