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Scav 09-10-2009 10:43 PM

Kentucky Derby 2010 Future Odds
 
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cmorioles 09-10-2009 10:57 PM

Is it too late to get a bet down on Mine That Bird?

VOL JACK 09-11-2009 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Is it too late to get a bet down on Mine That Bird?

You could get down on Brother Bird... Cot Campell thinks he is a lock since his half brother won the Derby.

VOL JACK 09-11-2009 08:55 AM

Thx...now I have a sore neck.

miraja2 09-11-2009 09:03 AM

Dixie Band at 225/1 seems like a pretty good value.

fpsoxfan 09-11-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Thx...now I have a sore neck.

LOL...I'm glad I'm not the only one.

RockHardTen1985 09-11-2009 02:09 PM

Ok Backtalk at 75-1 and Bulls and Bears at 150-1 is A JOKE. Bulls and Bears proved IMO he has tons more talent then Backtalk, he just needs to get it together mentally. I would take BAB in some sort of heads up bet anyday of the week.

Dublin lower then Lookin at Lucky? Im not sure I agree with that, I would love to see Wayne and Bob together on the Derby Trail. It makes it much more exciting IMO.

Fenway Faithful at 200-1 is kinda silly, he's a NY bred maiden, he has tons of talent, but he's a maiden and his sire is Grand Slam, I doubt he will stretch out.

Scav 09-11-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Ok Backtalk at 75-1 and Bulls and Bears at 150-1 is A JOKE. Bulls and Bears proved IMO he has tons more talent then Backtalk, he just needs to get it together mentally. I would take BAB in some sort of heads up bet anyday of the week.

Dublin lower then Lookin at Lucky? Im not sure I agree with that, I would love to see Wayne and Bob together on the Derby Trail. It makes it much more exciting IMO.

Fenway Faithful at 200-1 is kinda silly, he's a NY bred maiden, he has tons of talent, but he's a maiden and his sire is Grand Slam, I doubt he will stretch out.

Numnuts, there is alot of maidens on that list, it is September of their 2 year old year, probably 75% of the 2009 crop hasn't started yet

RockHardTen1985 09-11-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Numnuts, there is alot of maidens on that list, it is September of their 2 year old year, probably 75% of the 2009 crop hasn't started yet


I dont care how many there are.... I can name 10 who would be lower then that NY Bred sprinter, without looking do you even know who is trainer is? When he ran? Who rode him? I should not have even said maiden, just NY Bred Sprinter...

Gander 09-11-2009 02:17 PM

[quote=RockHardTen1985]Ok Backtalk at 75-1 and Bulls and Bears at 150-1 is A JOKE. Bulls and Bears proved IMO he has tons more talent then Backtalk, he just needs to get it together mentally. I would take BAB in some sort of heads up bet anyday of the week. I'll take this bet. PM me the amount. Shall we do the BC?

Dublin lower then Lookin at Lucky? Im not sure I agree with that, I would love to see Wayne and Bob together on the Derby Trail. It makes it much more exciting IMO. I'm holding my breath. Both so great for the game.

Fenway Faithful at 200-1 is kinda silly, he's a NY bred maiden, he has tons of talent, but he's a maiden and his sire is Grand Slam, I doubt he will stretch out. You dont remember a horse called Funny Cide?

JerseyJ 09-11-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Ok Backtalk at 75-1 and Bulls and Bears at 150-1 is A JOKE. Bulls and Bears proved IMO he has tons more talent then Backtalk, he just needs to get it together mentally. I would take BAB in some sort of heads up bet anyday of the week.

Dublin lower then Lookin at Lucky? Im not sure I agree with that, I would love to see Wayne and Bob together on the Derby Trail. It makes it much more exciting IMO.

Fenway Faithful at 200-1 is kinda silly, he's a NY bred maiden, he has tons of talent, but he's a maiden and his sire is Grand Slam, I doubt he will stretch out.

Yeah, I guess that 81 beyer in the DMR Futurity draws your fancy about Lookin at Lucky? I don't know how you can make a case for any West Coast horse until they have proven they can run on dirt. Dublin has a 90 and 89 in his last two races as BSFs on DIRT, not rubber. Didn't people learn their lesson with Colonel John 2 years ago? I hope Lukas doesn't send Dublin to the Breeders Cup so they can stew over not having a top 2YO because of their idiotic decision to run it on the rubber and plastic. Send him to the Champagne, then send him to the Nashua over a Mile, and then finish up in the Remsen so you can stretch him out around 2 turns over dirt, or go Iroquois over a Mile, and then Kentucky Jockey Club to stretch around 2 turns. If he wins the Champagne which I certainly think he has to be looked at as the horse to beat in there going into it, and he ends up winning in those next two races, he'll have a pretty good claim of 2YO champ without a BC win on his resume with 2 G1 wins and 2 G2 wins if he does in in NY, and it would be 2 G1s, 1 G2, and 1 G3 win if he goes the Kentucky route.

RockHardTen1985 09-11-2009 02:22 PM

[quote=Gander]
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Ok Backtalk at 75-1 and Bulls and Bears at 150-1 is A JOKE. Bulls and Bears proved IMO he has tons more talent then Backtalk, he just needs to get it together mentally. I would take BAB in some sort of heads up bet anyday of the week. I'll take this bet. PM me the amount. Shall we do the BC?

Dublin lower then Lookin at Lucky? Im not sure I agree with that, I would love to see Wayne and Bob together on the Derby Trail. It makes it much more exciting IMO. I'm holding my breath. Both so great for the game.

Fenway Faithful at 200-1 is kinda silly, he's a NY bred maiden, he has tons of talent, but he's a maiden and his sire is Grand Slam, I doubt he will stretch out. You dont remember a horse called Funny Cide?

Gander, Funny Cide was different. He popped his maiden, I think he won by 12? Im 2 lazy to check now, this horse should have crushed his group, ESPECIALLY THE WAY RICK V is running and he just got beat. Im not sold on this one. I will take the bet, are you still local.... Propose something.... PM me, I will even send you something now to prove Im good for it, I know Hoss used to say a lot of ****, so I would like to show you Im good.

RockHardTen1985 09-11-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Yeah, I guess that 81 beyer in the DMR Futurity draws your fancy about Lookin at Lucky? I don't know how you can make a case for any West Coast horse until they have proven they can run on dirt. Dublin has a 90 and 89 in his last two races as BSFs on DIRT, not rubber. Didn't people learn their lesson with Colonel John 2 years ago? I hope Lukas doesn't send Dublin to the Breeders Cup so they can stew over not having a top 2YO because of their idiotic decision to run it on the rubber and plastic. Send him to the Champagne, then send him to the Nashua over a Mile, and then finish up in the Remsen so you can stretch him out around 2 turns over dirt, or go Iroquois over a Mile, and then Kentucky Jockey Club to stretch around 2 turns. If he wins the Champagne which I certainly think he has to be looked at as the horse to beat in there going into it, and he ends up winning in those next two races, he'll have a pretty good claim of 2YO champ without a BC win on his resume with 2 G1 wins and 2 G2 wins if he does in in NY, and it would be 2 G1s, 1 G2, and 1 G3 win if he goes the Kentucky route.


2/3 CHALKS, Have never stepped on dirt. One has run really fast, and the other is Baffert.

As for Dublin, hes really good. I actually bet him second time out and TOUTED him on Monday. I like him, but I think the Baffert might end up being the goods. Below is my win/place wager on Dublin. I also used him in every pick 3 possible, I used him that day with Hockey and was really trying to beat the Discreet horse.

2009-08-01 3:33:56 PM SARATOGA FLATS Race 6 $25 Win-Place on 6 (ticket:93f5d-ddc6a) $50.00 $330.00

cakes44 09-11-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
I hope Lukas doesn't send Dublin to the Breeders Cup so they can stew over not having a top 2YO because of their idiotic decision to run it on the rubber and plastic. Send him to the Champagne, then send him to the Nashua over a Mile, and then finish up in the Remsen so you can stretch him out around 2 turns over dirt, or go Iroquois over a Mile, and then Kentucky Jockey Club to stretch around 2 turns. If he wins the Champagne which I certainly think he has to be looked at as the horse to beat in there going into it, and he ends up winning in those next two races, he'll have a pretty good claim of 2YO champ without a BC win on his resume with 2 G1 wins and 2 G2 wins if he does in in NY, and it would be 2 G1s, 1 G2, and 1 G3 win if he goes the Kentucky route.

Or he gets hurt or randomly goes completely off form like every other DWL animal these days.

Cannon Shell 09-11-2009 03:24 PM

Dublin at 40-1? I may take a flyer at 400-1, maybe. His mother was a really good racemare but wasnt very sound. Horrible knees which she seems to pass along.

freddymo 09-11-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Yeah, I guess that 81 beyer in the DMR Futurity draws your fancy about Lookin at Lucky? I don't know how you can make a case for any West Coast horse until they have proven they can run on dirt. Dublin has a 90 and 89 in his last two races as BSFs on DIRT, not rubber. Didn't people learn their lesson with Colonel John 2 years ago? I hope Lukas doesn't send Dublin to the Breeders Cup so they can stew over not having a top 2YO because of their idiotic decision to run it on the rubber and plastic. Send him to the Champagne, then send him to the Nashua over a Mile, and then finish up in the Remsen so you can stretch him out around 2 turns over dirt, or go Iroquois over a Mile, and then Kentucky Jockey Club to stretch around 2 turns. If he wins the Champagne which I certainly think he has to be looked at as the horse to beat in there going into it, and he ends up winning in those next two races, he'll have a pretty good claim of 2YO champ without a BC win on his resume with 2 G1 wins and 2 G2 wins if he does in in NY, and it would be 2 G1s, 1 G2, and 1 G3 win if he goes the Kentucky route.

Let it go J the filly would smoke him..Did you call WFAN today?

freddymo 09-11-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Yeah, I guess that 81 beyer in the DMR Futurity draws your fancy about Lookin at Lucky? I don't know how you can make a case for any West Coast horse until they have proven they can run on dirt. Dublin has a 90 and 89 in his last two races as BSFs on DIRT, not rubber. Didn't people learn their lesson with Colonel John 2 years ago? I hope Lukas doesn't send Dublin to the Breeders Cup so they can stew over not having a top 2YO because of their idiotic decision to run it on the rubber and plastic. Send him to the Champagne, then send him to the Nashua over a Mile, and then finish up in the Remsen so you can stretch him out around 2 turns over dirt, or go Iroquois over a Mile, and then Kentucky Jockey Club to stretch around 2 turns. If he wins the Champagne which I certainly think he has to be looked at as the horse to beat in there going into it, and he ends up winning in those next two races, he'll have a pretty good claim of 2YO champ without a BC win on his resume with 2 G1 wins and 2 G2 wins if he does in in NY, and it would be 2 G1s, 1 G2, and 1 G3 win if he goes the Kentucky route.


Colonel John is going to be a very nice handicap horse on dirt J..

ateamstupid 09-11-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Thx...now I have a sore neck.

I laughed.


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