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golfer 09-08-2009 06:39 PM

Dutrow cuts deal in KY
 
http://drf.com/news/article/107114.html

randallscott35 09-08-2009 07:28 PM

Par for the course.

ateamstupid 09-08-2009 07:31 PM

That's still gonna cut into his Turfway business. :rolleyes:

freddymo 09-08-2009 07:34 PM

Dutrow is a brilliant trainer

Cannon Shell 09-08-2009 10:35 PM

He still has to do the days everywhere. Realistically the ineptness of the Racing board was actually covered up by Dutrow taking the deal offered. If they had pressed the issue in court, he would have won and got off with nothing. The rule that the horses have to go to a trainer with no financial relationship for 30 days is stupid. What trainer wants to take another guys horses for 30 days especially if the original trainer has no obligation to tell them anything about the horses? Does anyone seriously think that a guy is going to hire help, buy equipment, find stalls, etc for a month? It is a money losing proposition for the new trainer.

docicu3 09-08-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He still has to do the days everywhere. Realistically the ineptness of the Racing board was actually covered up by Dutrow taking the deal offered. If they had pressed the issue in court, he would have won and got off with nothing. The rule that the horses have to go to a trainer with no financial relationship for 30 days is stupid. What trainer wants to take another guys horses for 30 days especially if the original trainer has no obligation to tell them anything about the horses? Does anyone seriously think that a guy is going to hire help, buy equipment, find stalls, etc for a month? It is a money losing proposition for the new trainer.

How can the Ky RB be that ignorant of the obvious. It's almost as if both parties sat down with a calendar and decided to find the slowest racing period of the entire year to enforce any days at all.

freddymo 09-09-2009 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He still has to do the days everywhere. Realistically the ineptness of the Racing board was actually covered up by Dutrow taking the deal offered. If they had pressed the issue in court, he would have won and got off with nothing. The rule that the horses have to go to a trainer with no financial relationship for 30 days is stupid. What trainer wants to take another guys horses for 30 days especially if the original trainer has no obligation to tell them anything about the horses? Does anyone seriously think that a guy is going to hire help, buy equipment, find stalls, etc for a month? It is a money losing proposition for the new trainer.

And the alternative is??

Antitrust32 09-09-2009 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
And the alternative is??


geld the trainers that cheat??

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-09-2009 09:07 AM

its ok 'BABE' we will comeback stronger than ever.."drops needle":wf

Cannon Shell 09-09-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
How can the Ky RB be that ignorant of the obvious. It's almost as if both parties sat down with a calendar and decided to find the slowest racing period of the entire year to enforce any days at all.

Because they had no leverage because they screwed up when trying to use the tough guy act and "punish" him for saying the obvious. If they had just admitted that his lawyer had got them on sloppy work by the lab, given him the 15 days as reccomended by thier hearing officer, this would have been over and done with. But since they made the mind numbing decision to give him more days based upon ridiclous reasoning they made the situation into one where if Dutrow had pushed the case in court he would have almost assuredly won. This was a compromise. Dont underestimate the ability of any govt appointed board to be ignorant.

Cannon Shell 09-09-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
And the alternative is??

Respect the decision of the professional hearing officer who had taken all the factors into consideration. They wanted the 30 day provision to kick in but failed to cover their bases.

reese 09-09-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Because they had no leverage because they screwed up when trying to use the tough guy act and "punish" him for saying the obvious. If they had just admitted that his lawyer had got them on sloppy work by the lab, given him the 15 days as reccomended by thier hearing officer, this would have been over and done with. But since they made the mind numbing decision to give him more days based upon ridiclous reasoning they made the situation into one where if Dutrow had pushed the case in court he would have almost assuredly won. This was a compromise. Dont underestimate the ability of any govt appointed board to be ignorant.

How Muillins fare in the NYRA detention barn fiasco...never heard another word about it...no penalty...no days... no harm no foul :zz: But..."Mullins didn't know he couldn't bring a syringe into the detention barn":zz:

Cannon Shell 09-09-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by reese
How Muillins fare in the NYRA detention barn fiasco...never heard another word about it...no penalty...no days... no harm no foul :zz: But..."Mullins didn't know he couldn't bring a syringe into the detention barn":zz:

Different scenario because that was a NYRA rule as opposed to a medication/state rule. Mullins had no leverage but NYRA seemingly let him off the hook because they simply dont have the authority that a racing commission has. In this Dutrow case, the truth is that the state cut the deal to save face, not Dutrow. If it went to a court case, it would have been an embarrasment to the state of KY when the conduct of its board was shown to be in violation of the law. I am not saying that Dutrow is not guilty or doesnt deserve the time but pointing out the ineptitude of the KHRA's board in dealing with the issue.


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