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CapperZeke 08-19-2009 01:42 PM

Workout On Race Day
 
How unusual is it for a horse to work the morning of a race? Negative or positive?

Rising Honour race 4 at Del Mar today, worked 4f in 48.4 handily this morning.

kgar311 08-19-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CapperZeke
How unusual is it for a horse to work the morning of a race? Negative or positive?

Rising Honour race 4 at Del Mar today, worked 4f in 48.4 handily this morning.

Horse must be a real head case, takes some of extra energy out of him so he isnt completely out of control before the race. I used to swim my horse the morning of a race.

MaTH716 08-19-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CapperZeke
How unusual is it for a horse to work the morning of a race? Negative or positive?

Rising Honour race 4 at Del Mar today, worked 4f in 48.4 handily this morning.

Maybe they found another spot where they would rather run her and they plan to scratch this afternoon.

the_fat_man 08-19-2009 02:21 PM

I wonder if any of the published racing intelligencia has covered this angle.

Probably a nice one to add to a set of conditions that includes:

1) highest Beyer for the race
2) Quirin speed points stickout
3) high percentage trainer
4) high percentage jock
....

Oops, I omitted a biggie: 1st time gelding.

Slap on a nice size REBATE and the ROI is positive.

witchdoctor 08-19-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CapperZeke
How unusual is it for a horse to work the morning of a race? Negative or positive?

Rising Honour race 4 at Del Mar today, worked 4f in 48.4 handily this morning.

Don't know if that is negative or positive but her pedigree is interesting.


http://www.pedigreequery.com/rising+honour

ddthetide 08-19-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CapperZeke
How unusual is it for a horse to work the morning of a race? Negative or positive?

Rising Honour race 4 at Del Mar today, worked 4f in 48.4 handily this morning.

chuck used to take Sumwon out the day before to burn her up some.

Bobby Fischer 08-19-2009 05:03 PM

there are "schooling" type of things like changing lead or a new equipment change that could theoretically be beneficial to reinforce on race day

... but yea, probably a nervous wreck

docicu3 08-19-2009 06:01 PM

Didn't Dutrow do this with Big Brown during the triple crown or was that another high profile three year old......can't remember if it was the Derby or not??

SOREHOOF 08-19-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I wonder if any of the published racing intelligencia has covered this angle.

Probably a nice one to add to a set of conditions that includes:

1) highest Beyer for the race
2) Quirin speed points stickout
3) high percentage trainer
4) high percentage jock
....

Oops, I omitted a biggie: 1st time gelding.

Slap on a nice size REBATE and the ROI is positive.

1'st time gelding is a biggie, if it makes sense.

geeker2 08-19-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Didn't Dutrow do this with Big Brown during the triple crown or was that another high profile three year old......can't remember if it was the Derby or not??

Wasn't Derby...Belmont I think doc.

docicu3 08-20-2009 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Wasn't Derby...Belmont I think doc.


Ohhh so that's why he lost the Belmont. Glad that's cleared up, for awhile there I thought it was the low point in the cycle when he was clearing out all that testicle shrinking, rage making, cancer creating evil poison. It's nice to know BB was spent from his AM breezy, that day he turned into the reincarnation of Yankee myth Joe Hardy.......

Antitrust32 08-20-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Ohhh so that's why he lost the Belmont. Glad that's cleared up, for awhile there I thought it was the low point in the cycle when he was clearing out all that testicle shrinking, rage making, cancer creating evil poison. It's nice to know BB was spent from his AM breezy, that day he turned into the reincarnation of Yankee myth Joe Hardy.......


actually wasnt the belmont.. pretty sure it was the preakness and we all know how that turned out.. just like a 1/4 mile blowout to get his muscles ready..

and the reason he lost the Belmont was 50% his foot & 50% missed training from foot (or 100% foot)

docicu3 08-23-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
actually wasnt the belmont.. pretty sure it was the preakness and we all know how that turned out.. just like a 1/4 mile blowout to get his muscles ready..

and the reason he lost the Belmont was 50% his foot & 50% missed training from foot (or 100% foot)

Your right Jim it was the Preakness now that you jostled my few remaining working neurons. I'm surprised you don't believe he was cycling off the magic ju ju though..... Take a look at this one for tomorrow in a grass race without a monster closer IMO. In the 6th at the spa #5 "Who is Lady" is very very live. 15-1 ML is criminal. Key the 5 over the 3,4,6,9 for a very nice score tomorrow.....hopefully the race stays on.


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