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RockHardTen1985 08-05-2009 04:56 PM

Einstein vs Gio Ponti
 
The pp's are now out for the Arlington Million....
Assuming these 2 both run there best race, who is better ?
I give the edge to Einstein... I also like a few Euro's.

hockey2315 08-05-2009 04:59 PM

GP's last is better than anything Einstein has ever run. I want no part of Einstein here. Not that I really want a short price on GP. . .

Scav 08-05-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
GP's last is better than anything Einstein has ever run. I want no part of Einstein here. Not that I really want a short price on GP. . .

Trip-wise though, Einstein is going to get the best of it with his post and where the speed is, I wouldn't toss him at all....

Its a very competitive race in my mind, with the only horses that have no shot are Recapturetheglory, Mr. Sidney, and Presious Passion. I am almost ready to add Just as Well to that list.

RockHardTen1985 08-05-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Trip-wise though, Einstein is going to get the best of it with his post and where the speed is, I wouldn't toss him at all....

Its a very competitive race in my mind, with the only horses that have no shot are Recapturetheglory, Mr. Sidney, and Presious Passion. I am almost ready to add Just as Well to that list.


How do you think the betting will go ? I can see 4-1 on Einstein.

Scav 08-05-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
How do you think the betting will go ? I can see 4-1 on Einstein.

Maybe 6/1.....Cima and Gloria have been getting talked about alot here, and Gio Ponti is gonna get pounded on...

randallscott35 08-05-2009 05:22 PM

Have to say if it is firm and there isn't other pace, I think PP can do it again.

RockHardTen1985 08-05-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Maybe 6/1.....Cima and Gloria have been getting talked about alot here, and Gio Ponti is gonna get pounded on...


Gio will beat me.

RockHardTen1985 08-05-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Have to say if it is firm and there isn't other pace, I think PP can do it again.

Gomez has some speed.

brockguy 08-05-2009 05:53 PM

Einstein wont win..

RockHardTen1985 08-05-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Einstein wont win..

Who is the best euro ?

brockguy 08-05-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Who is the best euro ?

Cima De Triomphe followed by Stostfold followed by Gloria De Campeao

the_fat_man 08-05-2009 05:58 PM

Anyone kicking out Presious Passion really needs to take a long look at his races. This is a front runner that's able to ACCELERATE in the lane when the closers come to him. And, this is NOT after running crawling fractions. This horse is able to run a wicked pace and do this. And, he can also duel and do it. And, on more than one occasion he's come back again after being passed in the stretch.
I'm just hoping for a firm course.

brockguy 08-05-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Kev, this is an American matter.

:)

RockHardTen1985 08-05-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Anyone kicking out Presious Passion really needs to take a long look at his races. This is a front runner that's able to ACCELERATE in the lane when the closers come to him. And, this is NOT after running crawling fractions. This horse is able to run a wicked pace and do this. And, he can also duel and do it. And, on more than one occasion he's come back again after being passed in the stretch.
I'm just hoping for a firm course.

I dont remember TFM ever liking a horse this much.
This is at least the 4th time I have saw him tout Presious Passion.

Cannon Shell 08-05-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Gio will beat me.

Yes he will

ddthetide 08-05-2009 08:09 PM

Einstein just shows up and runs his guts out. i'll be happy to play him if you guys won't. :)

Scav 08-05-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Anyone kicking out Presious Passion really needs to take a long look at his races. This is a front runner that's able to ACCELERATE in the lane when the closers come to him. And, this is NOT after running crawling fractions. This horse is able to run a wicked pace and do this. And, he can also duel and do it. And, on more than one occasion he's come back again after being passed in the stretch.
I'm just hoping for a firm course.

Brass Hat, Proudinsky, Banrock, Quasicobra and Spice Route are not in this race to try and run him down. He wins I will tip my cap to him. I don't even think he will hit the board.

RockHardTen1985 08-05-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Brass Hat, Proudinsky, Banrock, Quasicobra and Spice Route are not in this race to try and run him down. He wins I will tip my cap to him. I don't even think he will hit the board.


What has the Beverly D, Arlington Million, Secretariat pick 3 averaged the past few years ?
If you dont mind checking....

Scav 08-05-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
What has the Beverly D, Arlington Million, Secretariat pick 3 averaged the past few years ?
If you dont mind checking....

No idea, it pays well though regardless of outcome, I think the pool from last year had 700k in it or something, it was monsterous....


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